(10-31-2018, 02:57 PM)Hell Rell Wrote: It's not unfair to say Adalind and Juliette were involved in the deaths of Marie and Kelly, Adalind the former and Juliette the latter. I thought the argument was stemming from making it seem like they killed each with their own hands. That isn't the case but they were clearly involved and had bad intentions. At the very least, both were trying to cause harm to their intended victim. Even if you don't believe Juliette knew about how Kelly was going to be killed, she at least knew there was an ambush waiting for her.
Adalind would have been guilty of attempted murder on Marie when she masqueraded as the nurse. Later, she would be guilty of murder because she transferred her intent to murder Marie to an assassin. No one is making it seem like Adalind and Renard killed Marie with their bare hands. What's being stated is that they are just as guilty as the assassin since their intent was to murder Marie.
As for Juliette, no one can state for sure what she knew or didn't know. That would require knowledge of the workings of her mind. The only things we know about Juliette and that night are what the series chose to reveal to the audience.
(10-31-2018, 02:55 PM)Henry of green Wrote: No problem I’ll clarify, who was it agian lured Kelly to Portland under false pretenses, led her directly into a deadly ambush while reassuring Kelly everything was perfectly fine, causing Kelly to be totally unaware of the deadly ambush . Who give kellys would be killers handy advice about how dangerous Kelly is and not to underestimate her, who showed the would be killers every inch of her and Nicks house to make sure there was nowhere for Kelly to escape and also give up her own nieghbours to the Mercy of the would be killers. clearly she didn’t care if they lived or died as she was smiling while handing over their details to the the would be killers. Remind also who was it who set upstairs listening to kellys brutal Murder thanks to the ambush she helped organize even if she didn’t know for sure kelly would be killed, Juliette clearly didn’t care ethier way as she done absolutely nothing to help Kelly at all. Also if that wasn’t enough she then went back to Nicks house and tried to Murder kellys son straight after telling him she didn’t know the Royals would kill Kelly. That seems pretty involved whether or not she know the outcome would end in Kelly’s Murder matters little considering she is the most involved in setting up her death whether knowingly or not she set up the murder of Kelly Burkhardt the Royals couldn’t have done it without her.
I agree Juliette lured Kelly to Portland under false pretenses. That's not a crime.
A majority of your post is either completely untrue or speculation. For example, Juliette did not lead Kelly into a deadly ambush. Juliette was upstairs and never met Kelly face to face. So she didn't "lead" Kelly anywhere.
One other thing which you mentioned, but then proceeded to deliberately overlook is the fact that Kelly, as a grimm, is herself a deadly weapon. Juliette knew this so whether or not the confrontation would be deadly would depend on who got the upperhand. That would have been an unknown to Juliette.
I'm curious. You said Juliette was listening to Kelly's brutal murder. What did you hear that led you to the conclusion that Kelly had been murdered?
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