01-24-2018, 12:55 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-24-2018, 01:32 PM by Henry of green.)
(01-24-2018, 10:10 AM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:Syscrash, Eve said she could never forgive Juliette for the things she’s done and one of those things she done was setting up Kelly. Juliette is responseible for Kelly’s death, she brought her town and led her to her death all this was on screen. She was clearly very ashamed of herself when Diania brought up Kelly’s as she had a flash back of her head in a box. The actor that played Nick even said the hexenbiest Juliette is responsible for Nicks moms death I have even posted the interview in another thread and will do it agian if you wish.If you think that is what was said then post the text. I posted the text to prove my point.
Like I said you have no idea what things she was referring to. She said for the things she did. Not all the things she did.
Yes she helped get Kelly to portland and to the house. But no one on the show accuses her of killing kelly. Nick only accuses Juliette of setting Kelly up not killing her. He accused Kenneth and the veratte but not Juliette. If I am wrong post the text.
You said you posted the text where Nick says Juliette is responsible. then yes post it.
Quote:How do they contradict each other, Nick told the gang to kill Juliette but he couldn’t personally do it when she was their in front of him beacuse he still loved her.The contradiction is you said he went to the mansion to kill her. her getting on the helicopter is why he did not. Then you say at the house he could not kill her because he loved her.
Quote:You are making assumptions how do you know for what reasons Juliette would and wouldn’t murder trubel for, Trubel said I wasn’t trying to kill you but I would to protect Nick and Eve just said you should know Juliette would kill you too anything else is an assumption.You are conflating the two statements. They a two separate trains of thought. The first being Trubel say I was not trying to kill you. Eve acknowledging that she knew that. this first idea establish death was not involved. The second part was Trubel saying she would have killed Eve if she had to. To which Eve replied that Juliette would have killed her. That says if Trubel had used deadly force., then Juliette would have killed her.
that is what it says in the order that it was said. You rearrange the statements to get a different perception.
Now here is the great thing about exposition as opposed to real life. In real life Eve could not have known Trubel was not trying to kill her. But this is a show and exposition is there to make a point and needs not be logical.
Quote:You claimed Juliette is not a killer which was a lie I was just pointing out Juliette can kill and would have killed Adalind if not for the guard these are facts.I never said Juliette is not a killer. I said until she became Eve which was the culmination of her wesen change. She still had her human sensibilities about killing and death. That was the point she was making in the spice shop when she stated she was losing herself. The statue incident was to give the statement context. After she was a full wesen. She was like all other wesen. Killing and death are part of the circle of life.
To see the difference in attitude. Take the wesenrien event. Juliette, Hank, and Wu had an emotional reaction. Seen, Monroe, and Rosalee it was like a walk in the park.
As for david's words remember he ended with "So all that is yet to be discovered". He also made this statement after Juliette death but before Eve. Also remember he also like the other answer question from the characters point of view. Not from what they know. At that point the character did not know what to think. He had not had time to think about it.
You did claim in another post that Juliette was not a killer which is why according to you she wouldn’t have killed Adalind.
Juliette only had an emotional reaction because she blew that guys head of by mistake it was totally unexpected for her off course she had an emotional reaction, but she had zero reaction to shooting the two guys in the park in fact she was the first of the scobbies to fire at the gang.
Nick definitely found killing easier than regular Juliette no ones arguing any different but Juliette is a killer if she has to be which was clearly shown, as was the fact that as a hexenbiest she didn’t care if Kelly lived or died as long as she got her revenge on Adalind and Nick. Which is the very reason she slept with Kenneth on Nicks bed for revenge, she had no other reason to sleep with Kenneth other than to get back at Nick, which is why as soon as Kenneth brings up Adalind and Nick sleeping togther in that bed she jumps her bones immediately not for lust but for revenge.
All isn’t yet to be discovered David made that statement just before the end of season 5 all has already been discovered, David, said Nick could forgive Juliette if it was Eve that got his mother killed and not regular Juliette, and what he means by Eve is hexenbiest Juliette.
Also once agian your making things I didn’t claim she murderd Kelly, she set up her murder wether knownly or not she is the reason Kelly is dead, as Nick said she set her up that’s all have ever claimed she set up Kelly’s murder, why would i need to find a statment saying she killed Kelly when I don’t believe she killed Kelly, I just believe she and the Royals are the reason kelly is dead which is true. Nick saying you set my mom up proves my point she set Kelly up therefore she is key in kellys death, that is assisting in Kelly’s Murder. Nick saying you set my mom up is him blaming her for getting his mother killed, he wouldn’t say Eve you killed my mother because she didn’t kill his mother Kenneth did but he said Eve you set up my mother.