11-02-2017, 03:21 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-02-2017, 03:24 PM by dicappatore.)
(11-02-2017, 03:18 PM)Hell Rell Wrote:(11-02-2017, 10:18 AM)New Guy Wrote: Hi Forum,
Borrowing from Wikipedia:
Quote:Grimm is an American fantasy police procedural drama television series...Several "twists" come up, potions, spells and spirits. In the hate sex scene in post #1 Renard and Juliette have taken potions and may be under some kind of spell. Several on the Forum give them a pass for their disloyalty to Nick. In particular Renard had no business pursuing Juliette. He had professional, ethical and moral obligations to Nick which he violated. If Juliette wanted to whore around she should have moved out of Nick's house.
It has been described as "a cop drama—with a twist... a dark and fantastical project about a world in which characters inspired by Grimms' Fairy Tales exist", although the stories and characters inspiring the show are also drawn from other sources.
I do not give any of the characters a pass for unacceptable behavior. Another thread discusses the possibility that Hexenette was possessed by some hexen spirit and should be excused for all her vile acts of murder, mayhem and violence. Bunkum. They are fully responsible for their actions regardless of any potion, spell or spirit. If people are not accountable then the multiple DWI boozer who slams into your car, killing your spouse and children should be declared innocent since he (she) was under the influence. Bunkum!
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Nick being enchanted with the Musai is similar to what happened to Juliette. I don't think he or anyone who fell under her spell should be held accountable either. They had little to no control over their own actions. Their autonomy was taken away from them.
I know this wouldn't console any of the family and friends of victims but I think you're being a little harsh here.
For example, I don't give anyone a pass for anything they do while drunk because they decided to get drunk in the first place. However, what if that person is someone who never drinks but had their drink spiked with potent alcohol? Is it fair to hold that person responsible for everything they did while drunk? They didn't even plan on drinking, let alone get drunk, but some asshole decided to spike their drink. Doe this person deserve your ire?
(11-02-2017, 01:23 PM)Henry of green Wrote: NG, I certainly think she was responsible for all her vile acts as hexenette because as I have stated in my other thread I don't think she was possessed completely ,so I hold her accountable for her acts as hexentte.
I think your being very harsh here ,NG, beacuse the situation is here so much different than the later hexentte situation beacuse here she's actually under an enchantment ,her boby was literally forcing her to do things with Renard she didn't want to do ,she didn't have free will in that situation . She also managed so how to take control of the situation by grabbing a gun and forcing Renard to leave so you have to give her some credit for that at least.
I agree with you though in season 2 overall she was pretty annoying and treated Nick like garbage in his own home but to be fair she literally had no memories of him. For most of the season he was a stranger to her so can you really blame her for being cold to him.
I agree with you though I think the house belonged to Nick and she should have been the one moving out if anyone had to move out.
NG, The only person Sean has Loyalty and obligations to is himself beacuse he's a piece of crap who only cared about power but even he in this situation isn't really at fault beacuse he is also under an enchantment . In season 4 he shows what a piece of garbage he really is by willing shaging Juliette but in this season he doesn't willingly do anything he's under a spell.
Henry and HR, you two make lots of sense on what happened to her in S2 until she comes home from the hospital and a few days later, she asks Nick if she should have moved out.
IMO, that should have not been a question but a response with deed. She didn't remember the guy yet she going to sleep in his bed and exclude him out of that same bed? Then, move out, period.
Only a hoe bitch would live in a guy’s home and dictate where he can sleep while she is going out, gallivanting with her girlfriends and ridicule him, behind his back, for his “lost puppy” look when he came home.
I don’t blame her for her eventual obsession with Sean. But that obsession did not happen the day she came home. It happened a few episodes later.
Would you have put up with that bull? Nick did, because he did love her. More proof of her over-reaction to Nick when she becomes a Hex. An honest honorable woman would have moved out. She was a professional. A Vet, and well capable to be on her own.
Why force a guy to sleep on the couch in his own house? I am sure, Nick the gentleman, he was probably insisted, at first. She should have moved out after a week or two, once she realized, her memories of him were not happening.
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