05-19-2015, 07:39 AM
(05-18-2015, 08:53 PM)irukandji Wrote: 1. I can't remember if this happened or not, but did he bring Hank over to talk to Juliette? In all honesty, I don't know the best way to tell her about it. It just seemed strange to me that he took a while to confide in her.
2. Can you recall if Nick ever tried to get to the heart of why Juliette refused him? As I said in my previous post, I didn't think the first proposal was made under the best of circumstances and their relationship was obviously strained. It seems like if Nick ignored that and then proposed again, Juliette would still refuse. Of course, it's not all Nick's fault either. Juliette could have brought out her reasons rather than simply stating one wedding's enough.
Tokens, some of my above post was directed to Belle. Sorry about that, I didn't expect you to have to respond again. That aside, you brought up something very interesting that caught my eye. Here's the snippet:
Quote:(even tho its actually Adalind to directly blame and both him and juliette a bit since they accepted taking the potion without knowing what may happen)
3. This is actually a very good point. Do you have any thoughts on what they might have done rather than take the potion?
1. Im pretty sure there was 2 times but i deff. recall atleast one specific time that Nick was actually trying to tell her but when she looked at him and smiled he couldn't do it,
my guess here is he knew how she would respond just like everyone else including himself did about, thinking said persons just crazy
and i suppose he could have brought hank in on it as well but my whole point was it wont really matter who's telling you, the person you love, a friend, when they say monsters are real
and nicks job is to kill them you'd have to think their crazy
for me with the whole "Grimm" secret it seemed(to me atleast) Nick wasn't trying to ever intentionally hid it from her rather figure out a way to word it and having evidence and Monroe ready to show her the proof, the Grimm's even in the series are fairy tales so you'd have to assume Nick's crazy and he found old fairy tale books that support his crazy
even hank and wu responded this way, its usually not till they see Monroe or Bud Woge that they actually believe, and as most Wesen say Woging in front of a plain old human is kinda a big deal for them (i can only assume it would be similar to the first time someone were to see someone else naked, need to trust the person and be willing or else itll be super uncomfortable even then probably still a little uncomfortable at first since they have no idea how the person going to react)
2. It is somewhat strange Nick didn't chase after a reason on his 2nd and 3rd proposals, on the second he accepted 1 wedding is enough as a reason which i don't think he should have, that couldn't have really been her reason and he probably knew it, I actually don't remember Juliette giving him and answer on the 3rd proposal at all which is kinda mean, if im recalling it correctly that is
But i see it as, when Juliette went into a coma we learned her and nick were seeing each other 3-4 years before the show was taking place, so by the end of season 4 it would have been 7-8 Years they were together, i don't feel like nick should have needed to chase the answers, and realistically 1 wedding is enough isn't an answer its an excuse
so yea they could both have a part of the blame but id have to lay more on Juliette for not speaking up even tho there was plenty of chances for her to, a proposal isn't really super easy for most guys to do and getting shot down 3 times i can only imagine would break his heart and make him feel like a child cause its totally out of his control that she says no over and over
3. This one comes down to Writing for me again, Juliette is the one who made the Final decision to give nick his "Grimm" back, but both her and Nick were forced into said decision
Elizabeth was about to leave town and was the only person who could make it, and Monroe and Rosalee were being hassled by the Wesenrein
They didn't have time to keep looking for answers and according to some there was none to be found anyway
But all that being said just cause they were forced to make a decision doesn't mean they were forced to give nick his "Grimm" back, they could have said nevermind
this to me is why the writing was to blame, they could have giving them another option later on if they said no, But that would have kinda made Nick character pointless till he got his
power back he would have need to purely rely on Trubel the entire time, which he was already doing up till this point
One way they could have had them say No and still have Nick somehow get his power back would be having nick rely only on Trubel, till she leaves town with josh, then there would have to be many situations when Wesen who know Nick's no longer a Grimm come looking for him, almost killing him, and although they never bring it up
Couldn't Trubel's blood give Nick his powers back? Shes got Grimm blood but from another bloodline so its different
That being said couldnt Trubel have removed Hexenbeast Juliette's powers? Nicks blood wont work cause it was already in Adalind and were being lead to assume Juliette got her powers directly from adalind protecting her from Nick grimm blood but not Trubels