(12-12-2016, 06:31 PM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote:(12-12-2016, 05:24 PM)irukandji Wrote:(12-12-2016, 10:54 AM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote: You are right. I think my posts ended up begin a little confuse.
I will simplify. I think that the same reasons the made Juliette to talk to Sean first made Nick to go for a walk. The same reasons that made Nick want to fix Juliette made Juliette to fear Nick. It is the lack of trust between then.
I mean both are guilty.
This way I don’t agree with your posts when you post like if Juliette had reasons for go to Elizabeth and Henrietta before talking to Nick. And then you accuse Nick to go for walk when Juliette showed him the woge. I think both attitudes were destructive in terms of the trust between them. Did I make it clear?
I re-read your previous post and this one. I get the impression that you're trying to make this an equal mistrust issue. In other words, if I lay the mistrust blame on Nick, I should also lay the mistrust blame on Juliette. If so, why? Are you saying this because that's the way you see it? I'm not trying to be offensive here, Adriano, but I am still not sure why this issue is coming up. And maybe it's due to me misunderstanding what you're trying to say here, but that's the feeling I'm getting from this post and your previous post.
Yes that is it... I think that both failed on build a trust relationship between them. If you read my first post I wrote that trust is is a two way street. In a certain way all my posts were based in this idea.
In simple words, for Juliette to trust Nick he had to conquer her trust. But she also had to give him the opportunity to conquer her trust. The opposite is also true. If it was for Nick to trust Juliette she had to conquer his trust but he had to give she the opportunity.
So the mistrust existed because Nick failed in conquer Juliette trust and she didn't gave him the opportunity. Juliette didn't conquer Nick's trust and he didn't give she the opportunity.
Actually all my posts was just based in this idea.
I'm glad you explained this, Adriano and it has also given me pause to think about my posts. While your posts were based on trust and mistrust, even though I stated differently I can see now that mine were not based on trust or mistrust. Mine were based more on actions and reactions. For instance, I don't see a trust/mistrust issue when Juliette went to see Renard. Juliette's a smart and methodical character. She would have thought things through and going to Renard was a logical move. Nick reacted to her going to Renard, but he didn't mistrust her because she did so.
Likewise, Nick was not showing a mistrust issue when he pulled his gun on her. He did not show a mistrust issue when he walked out. He was reacting to her woge.
I hope this makes sense.
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