12-12-2016, 09:58 AM
(12-12-2016, 05:52 AM)irukandji Wrote: Monroe and Rosalee did ask Sean for help. But Nick and Hank met Elizabeth first, and according to the script, it was Nick who brought Elizabeth up to speed on the situation. Later when she met Monroe and Rosalee, the question was asked, "Did you talk to Nick?"
I presume it was Renard who affirmed and then confirmed the Elizabeth had been brought up to speed. The only one who could bring her up to speed was Nick. If he wanted to remain human, he'd have said so not brought her up to speed.
Nick told Hank he wanted to be a Grimm again. He also said having a normal life would be nice as well.However, he never ever told Juliette he wanted to be a Grimm again. He did not trust her enough to confide his real wishes.
Juliette did go to Monroe and Rosalee and did not tell them to stop searching, she told them something along the line of not being in a hurry to search for a cure. She had talked to Nick about living a normal life. Otherwise, Nick would have never spoken to Hank about it.
Nick didn't "discover" Juliette was a hexenbiest. She showed him and she told him. It was Nick who did not believe her and subsequently pulled a gun on her. I would say in her defense, she made the effort. It was Nick who walked out.
(12-12-2016, 05:52 AM)irukandji Wrote: Monroe and Rosalee did ask Sean for help. But Nick and Hank met Elizabeth first, and according to the script, it was Nick who brought Elizabeth up to speed on the situation. Later when she met Monroe and Rosalee, the question was asked, "Did you talk to Nick?"Nick pushed the gun because he first thought she was Adelaind playing to be Juliette. When he was convinced she was really Juliette, he changed his attitudes. He went for walk to think about everything that happened. You are the one who said Juliette wasn’t the same anymore and you are right. Nick needed to think about the new Juliette and understand her.
I presume it was Renard who affirmed and then confirmed the Elizabeth had been brought up to speed. The only one who could bring her up to speed was Nick. If he wanted to remain human, he'd have said so not brought her up to speed.
Nick told Hank he wanted to be a Grimm again. He also said having a normal life would be nice as well.However, he never ever told Juliette he wanted to be a Grimm again. He did not trust her enough to confide his real wishes.
Juliette did go to Monroe and Rosalee and did not tell them to stop searching, she told them something along the line of not being in a hurry to search for a cure. She had talked to Nick about living a normal life. Otherwise, Nick would have never spoken to Hank about it.
Nick didn't "discover" Juliette was a hexenbiest. She showed him and she told him. It was Nick who did not believe her and subsequently pulled a gun on her. I would say in her defense, she made the effort. It was Nick who walked out.
But I would like to use your post as example. Please, don’t fill offended, but you clearly don’t trust Nick. Because of that you are always defending Juliette. You never try understanding Nick’s position; you only see Juliette’s position. I see Juliette doing the same thing after she became hexanbiest. She never tried to understand how Nick felt about that. This selfish attitude of her is what proves to me that she showed no trust on Nick.
To be clear, I am not accusing her of nothing because I think Nick did the same thing. Nick didn’t ask Juliette how she felt. He just thought about his feelings. He just though about how guilty he felt and because of this he just thought about “fixing” her. He also showed no trust in her. Both were selfish because they both just thought about themselves, they didn’t think about what was best for them as couple. In the end their attitudes destroyed the little small trust that still existed between them.
But what I don’t agree with you is to blame only one side of the equation. You can list ten pages of reasons for Juliette to not trust Nick and I will agree with all of them. But someone can also list ten pages of reasons for Nick to not trust Juliette and I will also agree with all of them. This doesn’t matter. The important questions are:
What did Juliette to gain Nick’s trust?
What did Nick to gain Juliette’s trust?
The answer is the same for both. NOTHING. Maybe just a few and very insignificant things.
“If two people agree on everything, one of them is unnecessary.”
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— Attributed to Winston Churchill