(12-12-2016, 05:52 AM)irukandji Wrote:Taking the trust factor between Nick and Juliette into account and reading some of these post asks a question when do the trust between Juliette and Nick start to fail? Was in season 1 when she thought he was hiding thing, or season 4 when she started being a hexenbiest? @irukandji point of Nick taking a walk, I hate to say this about males but this is common in some cases. The fight or flight IMO is higher in males so when Juliette told him and he found out she had already talked to others before him, don't think he wanted to fight so only left flight, sorry to say I'd likely done the same thing. I would need a walk to clear my head to keep my cool, about finding out I was so far down the line to be told.(12-12-2016, 01:36 AM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote: I went to grimm wiki to be sure how this all happened. Monroe and Rosalee went to Sean asking for help, not Nick. Sean asked his mother to help them. Not Nick.
I think Juliette was the one who went to Monroe and Rosalee asking them to stop searching for a cure without talking with nick first.
But anyway... The first thing Nick and Juliette had to have was to talk about that situation. They didn't.
And about your question if Juliette asking for help if it was mistrust. She answered that. She said she was afraid of Nick. She said she didn't know what to do. If she trusted Nick she would know that she should first talk to him. She wouldn't be afraid of him. She never trusted him from the first episode of show.
Monroe and Rosalee did ask Sean for help. But Nick and Hank met Elizabeth first, and according to the script, it was Nick who brought Elizabeth up to speed on the situation. Later when she met Monroe and Rosalee, the question was asked, "Did you talk to Nick?"
I presume it was Renard who affirmed and then confirmed the Elizabeth had been brought up to speed. The only one who could bring her up to speed was Nick. If he wanted to remain human, he'd have said so not brought her up to speed.
Nick told Hank he wanted to be a Grimm again. He also said having a normal life would be nice as well.However, he never ever told Juliette he wanted to be a Grimm again. He did not trust her enough to confide his real wishes.
Juliette did go to Monroe and Rosalee and did not tell them to stop searching, she told them something along the line of not being in a hurry to search for a cure. She had talked to Nick about living a normal life. Otherwise, Nick would have never spoken to Hank about it.
Nick didn't "discover" Juliette was a hexenbiest. She showed him and she told him. It was Nick who did not believe her and subsequently pulled a gun on her. I would say in her defense, she made the effort. It was Nick who walked out.
This is one reason I see Adalind and Nick as a better match he knows she knows. There are no surprises to come, and Nick did give her time to tell him she was a hexenbiest again. Something Nick knew but gave her time. Now in this case the fight or flight wasn't in play. They had a son and time to get to know feeling of this and Nick knew she was a hexenbiest. Juliette change came as shock. Now it is sad or something that what happened in season 1 with Nick now had happened in season 4 with Juliette.
(12-12-2016, 08:06 AM)syscrash Wrote:When Nick moved into the fome he only knew about Chavez so that was a save move. He didn't know about BC or that Trubel and Miesner were also in the same group as Chavez. This info might have changed how he setup the fome. Just a thought.Quote:Interestingly, Nick was able to protect Adalind and his son in season 5 while they were in the fome. Do you think Nick could have done a better job of protecting Juliette while in their home. I never saw Nick add a security system or upgrade windows or doors or anything.Protected the fome! They where not there but a few days and Trubel and Meisner found it. How protected is it if BC was able to destroy the place. Nick had to hide his friends in the tunnel because he could not protect the place. Had Diana not stepped in who knows if Conrad would have killed him stick and all.
Before Juliette knew about wesen a lot of the attacks on her could have been avoided if Nick has just told her why she was in danger. How many times did Juliette ask about Adalind. Nick knew Adalind was up to no good yet he let Hank be around her anyway. Even once Juliette learned about wesen. He still did not tell her all the dangers. Take the Manticore attack. Why would he not tell Juliette what the danger was. Luckily she was a powerful hexenbiest. I wonder could Adalind have defeated the Manticore. I really can not think of one time it was better to have Nick then not have Nick.