02-28-2016, 01:08 PM
(02-28-2016, 07:15 AM)Robyn Wrote:Hi Robyn and Irukandji,(02-28-2016, 06:55 AM)irukandji Wrote: Well, nothing more regarding this topic. I've had more time to think about the comments about Nick. The comments that really keep coming to mind were from Izzy, and he's made the point in several different threads. He was the one who kept insisting that Nick is just essentially a pig because men are pigs in general. They care only about themselves. While I don't agree with that opinion with regard to all men, I can agree with his opinion in Nick's case. Being a pig, Nick wouldn't care if he got raped or not. He just wanted the sex. If it was great, all the better for him.
Maybe that's the answer - Nick's a pig, simply because he has man parts, and he's emotionally tainted from years of trials & tribulations associated with being a Grimm. Maybe Nick just can't have what some would consider a normal reaction to being raped. In the larger scheme of things, the rape just isn't high on his list of things to worry about.
I will add the script of the Adalind as fake Juliette and underline a few items:
Quote:Nick goes to his room to get ready for Monroe and Rosalee's wedding]It was Bitsie who played the parts of Juliette and Adalind/FakeJuliette. I can see how Nick may have been fooled. The filming had Bitsie as both parts. IMO, Nick fell for the FakeJuliette, hook, line and sinker.
Adalind: [From the bathroom, disguised as Juliette] Nick, is that you?
Nick: Yeah.
Adalind: You had me worried. I thought you were gonna be late.
Nick: No, we've got plenty of time.
Adalind: [She comes out of the bathroom wearing Juliette's negligee] Well, that's good to know.
Nick: Whoa.
Adalind: Whoa what?
Nick: Whoa, you wearing that to the wedding?
Adalind: Unless somebody takes it off me first.
Nick: Really?
Adalind: Yeah. This whole wedding thing has kind of put me in a romantic mood. [She and Nick kiss]
Nick: I support that.
Adalind: You do, do you? [She and Nick kiss more]
Nick: I wish our friends would get married more often. [He takes the negligee off of Adalind]
Scene: Renard figures out what Adalind is up to.
Renard: [Reading the book] "Dich so mit 'm Spiegelbild beglücken." And to a mirrored image it will make. "Den Topf dann mit dem Hut bedecken." Cover the pot with your hat. "Um das Gebräu wohl auszuhecken." And breathe in the mixture from the vat. Oh, you bitch.
Scene: Nick and Adalind finish having sex.
Nick: [He sighs] What?
Adalind: We should do this more often.
Nick: No arguments here. [He tries to kiss Adalind]
Adalind: Uh-uh, 'cause then we will be late.
Nick: Okay, I'm going. [He goes into the bathroom]
[Adalind gets dressed and goes downstairs to leave, but runs into Trubel]
Trubel: Oh, Juliette, sorry.
Adalind: No problem.
Trubel: Don't worry, I wasn't cooking anything.
Adalind: Mm-hmm.
Trubel: Except bacon.
Adalind: Whatever, I hate bacon. [She opens the door]
Trubel: Are you going to the wedding?
[Adalind leaves and Trubel follows her. Upstairs, Nick is in the shower as Renard tries to call him. The scene shifts to Renard in the storage unit]
Renard: Damn it. [He empties a little bottle and puts some of the liquid from Adalind's potion into it. He then leaves]
[The scene shifts to Trubel following Adalind as she watches Adalind get into a taxi. Suddenly Trubel realizes that Adalind looks like a completely different person, and not like Juliette anymore]
Scene: Juliette arrives home.
Juliette: [She goes into the bedroom as Nick gets dressed] Wow, you look so handsome.
Nick: Well, that was fast.
Juliette: What?
Nick: Your hair.
Juliette: You like it?
Nick: Yeah, it looks great.
Juliette: Good.
Nick: It looked great before. Why'd you change it?
Juliette: Because we're going to a wedding. And we need to be gone in ten minutes.
Nick: I'm ready. I'll be downstairs.
[Juliette prepares to get dressed when she notices her negligee on the ground and the bed a mess. Trubel arrives home as Nick and Juliette head to the car. She hides and watches as they drive away. The scene shifts to inside the car]
Nick: You look beautiful.
Juliette: Thanks.
Nick: You okay?
Juliette: I don't know.
Nick: You don't know? Well, you seemed pretty okay not that long ago.
Juliette: What was my negligee doing on the floor?
Nick: I think that's just pretty much where it fell.
Juliette: When?
Nick: [He chuckles] You're joking.
Juliette: No.
Nick: Oh, come on. Was I that bad?
Juliette: Nick, why don't you just go ahead and tell me what's going on.
Nick: I would, but I don't know what you're talking about.
Juliette: I'm talking about when I just came home, and my negligee was all scrunched up on the floor, and the bed was messed up.
Nick: Yeah, well, I didn't do that by myself.
Juliette: All right, want to tell me who you did it with? [Nick looks at her] Don't look at me like that. You did this, not me.
Nick: I didn't. I came home, you were wearing that negligee.
Juliette: My God, how stupid do you think I am? I was gone. I was getting my hair done.
Nick: Yeah, you got your hair done. It looked great.
Juliette: Stop. I cannot believe that you would do something like this in our home, in our bed.
Nick: All right, this isn't funny anymore.
Juliette: If we weren't going to Monroe and Rosalee's wedding, I would make you pull over, and I would get out.
Nick: Juliette, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Juliette: Nick, you were in bed with somebody.
Nick: Yeah, I was in bed with somebody. You. We made love.
Juliette: We didn't.
Nick: Okay, then it was somebody who looked and sounded exactly like you, was in our bedroom, and was wearing your negligee.
Juliette: Nick, it wasn't me.
Nick: Well, it had to have been you. Who else could it have been?
Juliette: [She thinks about it] Adalind called me.
Nick: Last night.
Juliette: Today. She wanted to come over, and I told her I was gonna be out.
Nick: She knew you weren't gonna be home.
Juliette: Oh, my God.
Nick: If that was Adalind...
Juliette: Oh, my God, I'm gonna be sick.
Nick and Juliette figure it out in the car. What happened sickens Juliette. Nick makes no comment. If he is such a "pig" where is the oink, oink. He may not feel he was raped, but he knows he has been conned. He also knows the woman he loves and wants to marry feels betrayed and deeply hurt.
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