02-04-2016, 06:37 PM
(02-03-2016, 12:22 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hello Forum,I agree, once she started to change Juliette lost control but never trusted her friends. She chose to go to Sean who didn't really care for her well being. Unlike if she had went to Rosalee ,she would have worked her ass off to help Juliette. Juliette was mad at what happen to her and put all the blame on Nick. So she tortured him, didn't even give him a chance to accept her, try to make it work. Instead she woge in front of him and ask for a kiss. Ofcourse Nick is still trying to be a different Grimm, giving all Wesen a chance to live their lives but still their true selves aren't attractive sometimes. He still would need time to accept the new her but she let her rage control her action and also didn't give a damn at what she was doing. smh smh smh
First, thank you Nadalind1987 for starting this thread, Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve. The show is called Grimm and the lead character is Nick Burkhardt. I note you refer to Bitsie Tulloch's character as Juliette/Eve. IMO, there is only one persona which is Juliette/Hexenette/FankenEve. We discuss her character ad nauseam because Juliette (pre hexen - human), Hexenette (post hexen - living) and FrankenEve (post hexen robotic thing - dead).
You made a couple of points that continue to be debated:
Quote:Nick has turned away from Juliette in disgust...There were many trials that came upon Juliette. Although she did not seek these trials she is responsible for her reaction.
Juliette laughed into Nick's face when he told her that he loves her...
In the flashbacks of Nick and Juliette they expressed their love and moved in together. I the pilot episode 1.01, Nick is buying an engagement ring. Nick knows nothing about Wesen and Grimms. Then the action begins. Nick cannot explain what he does not know but has to deal with life threatening issues.
1. Nick proposes. Juliette spurns him. That was her choice.
2. Adalind does the cat scratch thing. Juliette loses all memory of Nick. Renard and Elizabeth do the kiss cure. Juliette returns to the house she shares with Nick and treats him like dirt. Her Choice.
3. Then she goes hate sex with Renard. Again, her choice.
4. Adalind steal Nick's Grimm powers. Nick and Juliette decide to do the potion/spell to re-Grimm. Again, her choice.
5. Now to your first point. The hexen side effect grows stronger. Juliette does not say anything to Nick, she simply Woges into a hideous corpse faced monster and demands a kiss. Again, her choice.
Kiss her? Most Grimms would decapitate her immediately! She seems to take morbid pleasure in hurting Nick.
6. Your second point about Juliette laughs at Nick who continues to love her in spite of all she has made him endure. I have always questioned her sincerity. At this point, clearly she has no love in her.
7. Juliette continues down a path of hatred, debauchery and violence. This culminates in the death of Kelly Burkhardt.
Season 5 ends at the climax of the plot with a lot of violence and death. Meisner kills the villain King Fredrick. Nick comes home to mourn his Mother. Juliette shows up, admits to her betrayal of Kelly, shows no remorse and taunts Nick to kill her. Nick cannot kill the love of his life so she launches into a violent attack on him with intent to rip off his head, but Trubel stops her. Juliette dies in Nick's arms. At her last breath she gasps "Nick."
Here is a clip the touches upon many of these plot points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sw9u7bAddw
NBC went to some expense to tease a proper end to Juliette, including filming her "funeral" and deleting Bitsie from the show credits.
Yet she is back again as the wooden, robotic, emotionless FrankenEve. The writers have taken the most despised character, jacked up her power above all other characters on the show and given her the role of savior of all humanity. At least they seem to realize how Nick should feel about her. He says "I need to bury her One way or another." I agree with Nick. We endured "Eve of Destruction." It is time to "Entomb Eve."
New Guy