02-04-2016, 12:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-04-2016, 12:17 PM by Fallout merc.)
(02-04-2016, 10:16 AM)New Guy Wrote: Hi Fallout,
Thanks for your comments. I'll just add to them:
Quote:1 the proposalThe proposal was in 1.16. Juliette's refusal was:
Nick proposed to her before she went in a coma not after and during that time she knew nick was hiding something from her and I can only assume they never did that before and she was right so she made a (smart) decision not to rush into something that affects her life blindly until nick was ready. This is about her life as much as it is about nick rushing into marriage knowing nick is being dishonest about being a grimm and as viewers knowing what a grimm is would have been foolish regardless of nicks feelings
Quote:N: Okay, look, I know that this weekend didn't turn out the way I planned. And, uh, I think the thing of it is, you kind of have to make your own perfect moments. So Juliette, will you be my wife?So what happens when Nick "lets {her} back in?" Nothing.
J: I can't. I love you so much. And I really, really want to marry you someday. But I can't right now.
N: Because of what? I'm a cop? Is that ...
J: It's not because of your job. It's you. I feel like you've been keeping things from me. You've been so closed off. I know how hard Aunt Marie's death was for you. But until you can let me back in again I can't say yes.
You claim Nick was dishonest. He was protecting her from the shock most humans experience upon exposure to Wesen. Both Hank and Wu were more than just shocked. When he took her to the trailer, she did not believe him, began to cry and told him he needed help. IMO, Nick was justified in "protecting" her. Her reason to spurn him was bogus. If anyone was "dishonest" it was Juliette.
Your second point:
Quote:2 the love curse was adalinds doing and she did it to get back at nick ( see what I mean). She bearlly had controle of her emotions same with renard and they tried to fight it. When Juliette lost her memories nick was a stranger to her and she didn't know why and nick did but he couldn't tell her then after taking the cure for the obsession she kept seeing images of nick where ever she went and it sacred her but then she got her memories back ( by herself) and she knew she was wrong and she accepted him and his grimm worldYou seem to be saying Nick knew why she lost her memories of him. Can you explain what he knew and why he didn't provide that information to Juliette? Nick let her stay in his house and even moved out so Juliette could regain her memories. The NBC recap of 2.03 states:
Quote:A new day for Nick brings another trip to the hospital to check in on his girlfriend, Juliette. After waking up from a coma, Juliette can't seem to remember Nick. In hopes of bringing back her memory, Nick brings his computer, which has dozens of photos showing off their relationship. Unfortunately, Juliette only knows Nick as the police officer who took her to the hospital, not the Nick who has been her boyfriend for several years. Frustrated and confused, Nick asks Dr. Saliman what he can do to help Juliette. The doctor simply advises Nick to be patient and wait for more test results to come in.IMO, Nick showed compassion and tried to help Juliette. She was not "by herself."
The "love curse" drove wedges of mistrust between Nick and Juliette, and Nick and Renard. Note that Nick risked "side effects" of the pure of heart potion to cure Juliette. What if it backfired as severely as the re-grimm potion did on Juliette? You also say "they (J & R) tried to fight it" and I agree, but Juliette was a good marksman and in the most violent hate sex scene, she takes Renard's gun and fires it several times. At close range, why didn't she blow his zauberbiest brains out? He did break into the house and such an intruder is fair game for self defense.
New Guy
How was her reason bogus like I said as far as we know they held no secrets from each other now she notices nick is hiding somthing from her and she's right. even if nick had a good reason not to tell her because he wasn't ready to confind in her she probrobly felt nick didn't trust her and while I may not be married trust is important in a relationship.
Now about hank and wu the diffrence between them and Juliette is both hank and wu saw their first wesen and vog before nick could tell them the truth and during that time they thought they were crazy and as a result they almost quit their jobs. Wu pretty much called nick out on keeping him in the dark while he knew the truth the whole time despite his good intentions nick almost lost his freinds by keeping things from them.
Now back Juliette unlike wu and hank nick tried to tel her the truth before she ever saw a wesen she didn't believe him and why should she ? Who would ever believe that there are monsters disguised as normal everyday people without any proof that's why both hank and wu thought they had gone crazy wesen defy normal logic. Her reaction to nicks secret was natural anyone would have reacted the same way and again he could not prove he was telling the truth at the time.
Sure maybe that's not fair but it's not her fault for reacting in a way anyone else in her shoes would have reacted.