04-22-2018, 04:38 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-22-2018, 04:42 PM by dicappatore.)
(04-22-2018, 03:29 PM)Henry of green Wrote:(04-22-2018, 01:56 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:Another scenario could take place when Rosalee makes a phone call to the Wesen Council or any other Wesen that heard of what Juliette did in public, and exposed the Wesen community to many Kehrseite. At this point, BC hasn't destroyed the Council yet. The Council, in turn, dispatch out assassins to take her out. BUT WAIT, This is the "all powerful Hex". "YOU CLAIM".Juliette is a hexenbiest. Adalind is a hexenbiest. That means a wesen on wesen killing. perfectly within wesen laws. wesen live by the laws of nature. Survival of the fittest. The rule of predator or pray. Killing others is perfectly ok within the wesen community. Their has not been one case where the council has had a problem with wesen on wesen killing. As long as Juliette did not woge in the station where other could see it, The council would have nothing to say. Without wogeing there would be no exposure. Sure the ones there that are wesen know what is going on. But the council rules would prevent them from saying anything. AS for HW, they would be on Juliettes side since Adalind is an enemy that was out to get the key and out to hurt a Grimm.
You claim that my scenario is of what could happen but yours isn't. The point is, Juliette did not attack so there was nothing for Nick to stop. Nick between Adalind and Juliette did nothing to stop what could have happened because he could not have stopped what could have happened. Your idea that he made a difference is also speculation. The difference. We saw a scene where Juliette attacked and Nick and the group could not stop her. You have nothing to show that in the station it would have been any different and his being between them would have been able to stop her.
Quote:Well, your "all powerful Hex" was able to easily defeat Adalind because she took her by surprise.When Juliette stopped the vase and then woged that ended the surprise. Surprise would only be applicable if is was a sneak attack.
Quote:She was able to defeat the bounty hunter because he thought he was holding hostage just a Grimm's girlfriend, and was taken off guard by a Hexenbiest.Knowing Julette was a hexenbiest might have prevented the bounty hunter from attacking Juliette. But it would have done nothing to stop her from killing him. Remember her first ability was to blow some guys brains out. Exactly how would the bounty hunter have stopped that.
Quote:She was able to move the gargoyle because she was cowering in the shadows and surprised Adalind as she was shopping.How was she cowering. She was standing on the other side of the street out of sight.
Quote:She was able to get away with what she did in the spice shop, because she caught the gang off guard.How where they off guard. They knew she was a hexenbiest, that is why they thought she was there so they could suppress her powers.
Quote:One possible scenario is HW can go after her and put her in a cage just like they did after Trubel shot her. Well she is the all powerful Juliette. How can they grab her? YOU CLAIM. You seem to forget, she isn't EVE yet, she hasn't been trained by Meisner and Company, to focus her powers and became 'the all powerful Eve". She could either be retrained, like Meisner did or prosecuted in incognito and kept in that cage in perpetuity. Similar to Guantanamo Bay.I see the entire HW story line went over your head. Yes they made us think she was in a cell. They then showed that those are the rooms they stay in not the cells we thought they where. The only thing they trained Eve to do was to stay in control. Meisner even said they would teach her to control her anger. but you like many have this impression of some abusive process slash brainwashing that went on. Yet all the dialog and scenes, plus the final result. Show special forces training. Eve entire affect is that of a member of special forces. The only thing that matters is the mission.
Where exactly on the show was it ever explicitly stated that every wesen on wesen killing was by the law of nature and the council wouldn't do anything about it. Infact there is plenty of examples to the contrary on the show for example, Nick threating to report the wesen coupke in 4x14 for using the murdered rabbit wesens foot as a fertility good luck charm. Rosalee explicitly stated during that episode it was agianst wesen law and if fertility if wesen fertility clinics were using them it was agianst the law. Nicks exact words to the couple involved were, I can’t arrest you for this but I will be reporting you to the wesen council for this, that hardly goes along with your logic about the council just allowing Wesen to prey on each other without consequences.
Also Juliette used her powers in public in a bar to attack innocent civilians a few day previously, which is cleary agianst wesen law so her using her powers in the middle of the Portland police station to kill a pregnant woman would have clearly drawn the attention of the council, heck Renard probably would have reported her himself just to get rid of her after all he’d already used Juliette and had zero use for her anymore himself, which is why he kicked her out of his apartment.
Henry, I am so sick and tired of correcting this so called insightful with his writers intent. This contributor has no clue on comprehending what he saw, what he reads and what he writes let alone "writers intent. Here are a few examples. I never stated Juliette would have been reported to the Wesen Council for Hex on Hex beating. I said it would have been reported as exposing the Wesen World to the public, if she did what he predicted what she "could have done".
The Wesen Council dispatched bounty hunters and assassins in more that one episode in response to Wesen exposing their abilities to the public. Is Juliette such a special Hex because she wasn't born as one. She doesn't have to answer to the Wesen Council like all the other Wesen, according to syscrash imaginary rule book? I guess, his "insightful writers intent" is more obvious to him than what we saw on the screen.
Then we have the scene in S4, E17, when Juliette moves the gargoyle statue, she is hiding behind a plant or small evergreen planter. After Adalind is pushed away by the Verat body guard, Adalind looks around and Juliette turns around and scurries away looking scared. To me, that is cowering. Maybe she wasn't crouch down but she did not stand in the plain sight either. You don't want to use the word 'cowering"? I guess to you, that was bold and courageous.
Then you have the scene, S5, E7. Nick meets Eve in the restaurant and asked her "what did they do to you, she replies, "they did what they had to do". She visualizes Meisner telling her she is dead, you better learn to focus that rage and slap her hard across her face. I guess for "Mr. Writers Intent", she was at a spa getting a face lift with HW picking up the tab.
I didn't get the exact quotes from the scrips pages but the remarks are close enough. Man, where were these debating armatures when I had to debate fellow students way back when I went to school
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