03-02-2018, 04:56 PM
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(03-02-2018, 03:10 PM)Hell Rell Wrote:(03-02-2018, 11:43 AM)irukandji Wrote: Nick and Adalind did not have a child together consensually. The child resulted as the result of a trick. Also, had Adalind not crawled back into his life at the precinct, Nick would have never known about his child. It seemed G&K were under the Neanderthal assumption that because Nick had a son, he should completely change his outlook and take Adalind into his home.
You already know what I think about Nick and Adalind's "wild afternoon". You're probably right about how G&K approached but it doesn't change the fact that Nick felt responsible for them. He said as much in Clear and Wesen Danger. Their feelings grew from there and my thoughts about how they approached their relationship is already on record.
(03-02-2018, 11:43 AM)irukandji Wrote:Quote:Hell Rell wrote:
Other than that, Nick and Adalind were in just as much danger apart as they were together unlike Juliette who would've been relatively safe had she not been with Nick.
I know many blame Juliette for simply not evaluating the situation, packing it up, and leaving Nick for greener pastures.
Nick was presented early on as the different type of grimm, one who protects the innocent. While I don't see a strong romantic chemistry between Nick and Juliette, the one thing I did see between them was a strong friendship chemistry, and that could speak of a type of love between them. A strong kind of chemistry like that could have prevented Juliette from leaving Nick, along with a misguided notion that, because he's out there fighting and protecting the good, he would eventually get around to protecting her too.
They're both to blame for ending the relationship. They stayed together because they were in love. It's not a horrible thing at but there were consequences for that decision. Monroe and Rosalee and Nick and Adalind also faced consequences. They just weren't as drastic which is weird considering Monroe was kidnapped and nearly died while Nick had to watch his new family be held hostage by BC.
(03-02-2018, 02:50 PM)Robyn Wrote: Am I completely confused about what happened to Juliette? I thought:
1) Adalind’s spell put Juliette in a coma that would likely result in death
2) Catherine came up with up with a spell that would allow Renard to wake Juliette with a kiss which resulted in Renard and Juliette having an attraction that would result in them eventually killing each other
3) Rosalee came up with a spell that broke the R/J attraction and restored Juliette’s memory, but caused weird hallucinations/happenings for a while
Yes? No? Sort of?
If I’m even close to remembering this correctly, what exactly did Juliette do other than not get angry at Nick and hold him responsible for what happened to her?
I've stated several times how completely unfair I thought people were being to Juliette for what happened in season 2. Nick kicking her out would've turned him into an irredeemable dick. Juliette isn't at fault at all for what happened in season 2. I feel like what happened in season 4 makes some people blame Juliette for everything. For some reason, season 2 Juliette gets judged as if she were season 4 Juliette all along.
I also think the criticism of season 2 Juliette is unfair nonsense she was very annoying but that situation was hardly her fault, Adalind holds all the blame for season 2 Juliette as it was her who caused the comma with a cat scratch. Comparing seasons 2 and season 4 Juliette is like apples and oranges, season 4 Juliette chose to help Nick and was turned her into a raging witch as a consequence of helping Nick, her choice . Season 2 Juliette was given no such choice, hexenbitch Adalind put Juliette in a comma which caused Juliette’s annoying behavior in season 2.
Robyn, it wasn’t a shipper poll G&k asked the fans a number of poll questions it wasn’t just about Shipping some of the other questions for example were who’s your favorite recurring character and who’s your favorite character.
Below are the other tow parts of the poll
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ask-the-fans-g...ir-burning-
questions-help-225506312.html
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ask-...08002.html
Robyn, Are there healthier relationships certainly but you also have to remember compared to her relationship with Renard and her mother her living with Nick was a walk in the park. Nick didn’t slut shame or threaten Adalind like Renard did or send a crazed hexenbiest to kill her at her hotel or tell her she was useless, nothing but a pretty face. Nick didn’t throw her out in the street like her mother or tell her she was of no use anymore. Yes the Nick and Adalinds relationship was one sided for the majority of season 5 but Nick didn’t outright reject her like Renard or use her to do his dirty work then disgard her. I have often heard you compare her relationship with nick to her one with Renard and I have to disagree other than her being the only one in love in both relationships they are totally different, Nick didn’t use her for his own purposes like Renard or threaten her as Renard did in season 1.
Though by no means am I saying Nick was a saint as the writers often wrote Nick as being the better half of a one sided relationship, especially with Monrone for example. A lot of Nicks relationships with his scobbies could be classed as unhealthy to a certain degree as a lot of times they did more for him than he did for them. But they also benefited greatly from knowing Nick so it’s hard to really define wether the were unhealthy or not.
The worst worst things Nick ever did to Adalind during season 5 were not telling her he loved her when they slept together, not that big a deal if you aske me and hiding the stick from Adalind. Adalind even says to Boneparte in 5x20 Nick was good to her when he didn’t have to be which is true. Nick took Adalind in, yes for Kelly’s sake at first but he’s still the first person on the entire show who actually give Adalind the chance to mother her child. Yes he was involved in Diania’s kidnapping but as was every other person in Adalinds life including the child’s father. Nick also forgive Adalind right away for leaving with Kelly because he knew she was doing what she had to he didn’t hold any grudge agianst her for taking Kelly. In season 6 when they are in a full relationship there are no secrets between the two, Nick tells Adalind about the stick and she tells him about Diania and Rachel. Nicks tells Adalind he wants her and thougth he’d go crazy without her. Yes there pre relationship in season 5 was very one sided and not really as fleshed out as it should have been but this isn’t a very relationship based show other things take higher priority on the show like crime solving. So while you could certainly say season 5 relationship wasn’t healthy, their season 6 relationship was pretty healthy in my opinion anyway.