12-03-2017, 12:55 PM
(10-30-2017, 04:46 AM)New Guy Wrote:(10-29-2017, 09:07 PM)Renardfan99 Wrote:Hi Renardfan,(10-29-2017, 09:02 PM)irukandji Wrote:(10-29-2017, 08:13 PM)Devegs Wrote: So, do I surmise that you believe that they (Kenneth and Juliette) did plan on at least one murder that night? I guess not Kelly's but Nick's. I'm thinking they'd probably hobble Kelly while they finish Nick off... just for giggles. Then untie her and walk away with Diana.
When I referenced, "they", I was talking about Kenneth and the royals. There's no evidence I can see that pointed to Juliette knowing and planning any murders. However, Juliette gave Kenneth information on the neighbors and from what I recall, there was a large number of verrat around. So while she didn't know or plan on a specific murder, she would have been aware that Kenneth and the royals were planning for a battle.
Lawd. I came out of lurking mode to respond to this comment. Juliette knew darned well that the Royal's tried repeatedly to kill Renard and his mother and even mentioned that FACT to the King after he saw Diana, so of course she knew they were planning on killing Kelly. Juliette wanted to hurt Nick and chose to help the Royal's and was complicit in the deaths of her neighbors and Kelly Burkhardt. The truth is, Juliette should have stayed dead at the end of s4!
Welcome back from your "lurking." The "FACTS" are undeniable. They all support the conclusion that Juliette "knew they were planning on killing Kelly." No FACTS exist to support her claim that she didn't know. She was an expert liar and repeatedly lied to Kelly. Her lies to Kelly are well established FACTS.
I agree completely. "Juliette should have stayed dead at the end of s4." The creation of FrankenEve was a festering wound that eventually caused the death of what was once a successful TV series.
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Yes, JulietteEve laid a big old fat stink bomb at the end of s4. IMO, Grimm could have moved on successfully if they had left Juliette dead and returned to what made the show popular in the first place. I would have been happy with the fairytale of the week and we find out about Zoerster and the keys during the shows final tenth season. I never watched Super Natural or Bones, but these shows clearly had enough juice and imagination to keep them on air for ten years or more!