03-14-2016, 09:15 AM
(03-14-2016, 08:17 AM)tscchope Wrote: The True Cross was used by the Byzantines as a battle standard to rally troops not to take trimmings from. It's unlikely to have been in the City on its sack by the Venetian's hired crusaders.
The True Cross most likely found its way to Rome by way of Venice. Taken there as part of the ransom for John V and the Byzantine crown jewels by Manuel, later Manuel II. From Venice it went to Rome in exchange for favours for the Doge. Rome then started using it as a relic by trimming and later dividing it up to pay for the rebuilding of Rome and the construction of St Peter's Basilica to give the west roman church a building to rival Hagia Sophia.
Nick certainly wasn't venerating the stick when he used it on Monroe, by accident. Rome would certainly have talked up the miraculous powers of the "relic" to potential buyers.
Was it coincidence that Nick's super hearing kicked in at the same time Adalind's powers were coming back? We also don't know if Nick is unique amongst Grimm in being able to acquire wesen characteristics on a seemingly random basis. We know nothing about his Kessler grandfather's wife or about Nick's father's family. There are insufficient data to form a hypothesis.
They DID take trimmings from it - and Constantinople put them in certain things (small pieces) and even had them take and bury small trimmings to certain locations; it was stated that no matter how many trimmings it never got smaller. At the end it was made into 19 pieces. They were stating of all the weight and sizes and then compared to the actual size of the cross that what has been referenced in all literature would never have been enough to equal the actual size of the cross. Which I found interesting.
I can link the article if you'd like to read it for yourself. When I say trimming it's just as it sounds like a sliver IMO. This goes through several years and how it was encased about Constantinople's mom etc. I have skimmed a lot of it and I'm not done I just happened to scroll further down and saw the bit on the "miracles of ..." and commented on that.
I don't even know if that is what the show is eluding to. It could very well be from the Tree of Life or as some have said even Merlin's wand; who knows. When I read about the "spear" it said that the handle I believe it was which was a staph was wooden but that it had an iron piercing tip or part of it was iron and not wood. Also, it talked about the nails and all too; about all the pieces that Constantinople had and where he placed them and some he wore/adorned on certain pieces of items he wore ...wasn't getting into a theological debate only commenting on what I read from the Journal of Orthodox Faith and Culture. It was a little different and because I read the sentence regarding Hadrian's too I found it interesting.
With us not knowing where the writers are pulling or using their "history" from ie what source I thought well, you never know. I don't IMO see them being completely biblical and will do mesh of various things perhaps or what fits from one thing and then something from another perhaps. Reading this and it being a tad different and all I just found it interesting. Mainly due to the "casting out of demons" since the Hexenbiest is like a demon living inside of you ...
I also wasn't forming any type of "hypothesis" regarding Nick; I only referenced that the writers (Kouf and Greenwalt) stated that the zombie part is over and done and that they would not be doing anything about that. The rest was pure SPECULATION on my part wondering if that maybe by defeating certain wesen he gets stronger or gets new skills or takes something from those wesen or it acquires a new skill for him from certain ones that he defeats/kills. That was all.
To me they seem to be using magic - considering that his Grimm blood was needed to break the seal on the bronze box that held the wrap which was around the 'stick' that we may never know exactly what it is (they may lead us toward a certain thought and let the viewer make up their own mind so that they can freely write it anyway they choose and wish - since it is a FANTASY and not real life. To me (again my opinion) for that box to be sealed by the blood of a Grimm they had to have some sort of incantation for it to work otherwise you're just smearing blood on it so who better to help them do that than a hexenbiest or someone else that practices magic/spells etc. Just having fun with the show - to me that is what it is about. I'm not trying to nail it down and peg it for some history channel lesson - it's a great show that I truly enjoy and hope that it's renewed. To me if they totally come out and say "it's the True Cross" or whatever there may be a lot of arrrghghh groans and people flip it off and stop watching. As I'm not sure how that will really help in defeating BC and all that - I mean to a point but in doing so then what you're going to have to let it fall into enemy hands at some point then the struggle of good/evil to get it back and someone bad will go good and help and bla bla bla been there done that too many (not saying here but it's reaching and usually when they go well we're forked and nobody is really watching anymore because it's no longer a show about Wesen and Grimm but having to write about the blood of Christ and all that) dammit then, just bury it again *sigh* plus, it's already been in a couple of interviews where they said regarding BC ... is it over/do they prevail (Nick and Gang) and they go well yeah, kind of and then they're asked will they be back and they again hint at well, yeah, you haven't exactly seen the last of them (meaning BC) ... soooo, I just want the show to be dark, fun, enjoyable, and not make my brain hurt thinking about Rome, and and what way and which way and exchanging favors etc because I don't see it getting that technical and talking about rebuilding this or that and addressing all those things - could they do it, sure. In doing so, I guess then so and so is going to be a Grimm or a Wesen and all the bad things that happen will be blamed just on Wesen alone and not just bad people - BUT like with the show coming up Friday: that mask is for ANYONE that wears it - they get Wesen-like strength so then that makes you go hmmmm and we go back to the struggle of good/bad and how wesen influences impact even everyday normal humans; so I dunno. I just don't want a sunday school lesson - no offense to anyone or anything. If they do it I just feel like they may be walking a thin line with viewers and they'd have to do it a very clever way but then again it's why I like Grimm as they are clever or were LOL here's to hoping they keep or get back to being clever and get picked up for S6.
I also have no idea what I have written or how badly my writing is as I'm writing this so quickly LOL so apologies right now. My box is so tiny and I can only see one line above and I'm all over the place writing about things. Plus, I'm just pretty ignorant on a lot of subjects and would never venture to say I'm not or that I know the Bible front to back and all that there is to know about all religions or the true cross or relics or anything to do with that time period and crusaders etc. I know about the Free Mason and Masons; that's about it and what I know about that isn't much or even things I'm allowed to speak of as they say HAHA
Have a super day! I just love reading all the theories and I'm ready to pop some popcorn drizzle some chocolate over it and sit in front of the tele Friday and enjoy Grimm!