(02-28-2018, 08:23 AM)Henry of green Wrote: Robyn, I liked Adalind even though she was a villain I also liked plenty of of complex rounded characters in in other shows but for me unlike you I never found Renard that complex, he was just a straight up villian to me nothing he did surprised me remotely. In my opinion Roiz didn’t do as good a job at showing Renard vulnerable side as Coffee did Adalinds which is why I found her portrayal of Adalind a lot more compelling than Sasha Roiz’s portrayal of Renard. Sasha was great at showing Renards rage or his intelligence as well showing his dominance, but in my opinion his performance often lacked emotional depth. It’s all about preference ,Robyn, Renard just always rubbed me up the wrong way right from the pilot.
(02-28-2018, 08:23 AM)Henry of green Wrote: Robyn, I liked Adalind even though she was a villain I also liked plenty of of complex rounded characters in in other shows but for me unlike you I never found Renard that complex, he was just a straight up villian to me nothing he did surprised me remotely. In my opinion Roiz didn’t do as good a job at showing Renard vulnerable side as Coffee did Adalinds which is why I found her portrayal of Adalind a lot more compelling than Sasha Roiz’s portrayal of Renard. Sasha was great at showing Renards rage or his intelligence as well showing his dominance, but in my opinion his performance often lacked emotional depth. It’s all about preference ,Robyn, Renard just always rubbed me up the wrong way right from the pilot.
I get what you’re saying, and I agree with you about the differences in Renard & Adalind. But had the characters been styled too similarly as bad guys, their roles would have been redundant. All I’m saying is that Renard didn’t need to have obvious vulnerabilities that compromised his objectives in order to be equally interesting and entertaining for me as the more emotional Adalind was. Renard keeping his emotions in check isn’t necessarily a lack of depth. Roiz played the character he was given - a man driven by ambition rather than emotions. Which is why I asked if you preferred recurring characters to be good guys, or like Adalind, have the potential to become good guys.
And yea, personal preference has a lot of influence in how we perceive the characters, even when they're presented as having precise roles in the story. Where Renard rubbed you the wrong way as early as the pilot, had Renard, Adalind, and the Royals not been introduced early on, I probably wouldn’t have stayed past the first two or three episodes. Well, maybe a little longer, I was enjoying the Nick & Monroe interaction.
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