01-25-2018, 12:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2018, 12:29 AM by dicappatore.)
(01-24-2018, 08:53 PM)syscrash Wrote: A better example of a hexenbiest against a Grimm would be Nick and Adalind. But that fight just like the fight with Kelly and Catherine the show had not introduced the idea that hexenbiest had telekinetic ability. So even though the Grimm won both fights, they do not answer the question of Grimm verses telekinetic hexenbiest. The one fight there is which is Nick against Juliette ending with Juliette and Trubel. There is the emotional factor. Nick said he was tired of fighting and his actions showed he was not really fighting back. With Trubel there is exposition that states Eve knew Trubel was not trying to kill Juliette. So we do not actually know how would a Grimm do in an all out fight with a hexenbiest that was using telekinetic powers.
The closes we have to how it would end is in the spice shop. That was Juliette up against two wesen and two cops with guns. But even then Juliette was still sort of their friend.
As I see it with the writers increasing hexenbiest abilities they created and imbalance. Their solution was not to address the question. I would say just like the writers provided Nick with a defense against the electric guy. Had they saw a need to have a confrontation between Nick and a telekinetic hexenbiest, they would have provided him with a talisman or potion that would even the playing field.
(01-24-2018, 09:12 PM)naw207 Wrote: There isn't a real defense Grimms have against Telekinesis. Adalind versus Nick isn't a way to say Grimm beats Hexenbiest as Adalind used zero powers against Nick. Same with Catherine and Kelly. The closest we ever got was Juilette making Nick shot Monroe. Also Truble shooting Juliette only happened because Juliette was off guard trying to kill Nick.
In an all out battle between Hexenbiest and Grimm the winner would/should logically be Hexenbiest but the way it was written for the most part wasn't the case. I mean you have Adalind who could crush bone with her telekinesis, you have Juilette who could explode peoples ear drums with her telekinesis, Diana who can toss people with hers and Conrad who can choke with his. Hexenbiest also seem to have physical strength comparable to grimms given Catherine was able to match Kelly is combat physically but was nowhere near her level in combat skill.
Overall though I think during Seasons 1 and 2 the writers didn't intend for Hexenbiest to have any active powers as they only showed up during Season 3. Although it should be noted most Grimms kill you stealth and weapons. Meaning if they killed Hexenbiest they did so by catching them off guard or by using a weapon of some sort.
(01-24-2018, 09:53 PM)syscrash Wrote: From what it looked like to me telekinesis is like a muscle. The stronger you are the easier it is to exert force. Take Juliette when she exploded the guys head and took on the manticore she seemed to be straining. Even the fight with Adalind she was stronger but it still looking like it took a lot of effort. By the end of the season in the spice shop it seemed she needed to exert less effort to do things. During season five she seemed to need no effort to do things. They even showed her doing push up to strengthen her abilities. In comparison Adalind had to woge to move the vase. Eve was able to open doors without even flinching. But like I said that is how I see it. Based on how it is written there does not seem to be a solid rule on how telekinesis works. Take Diana for example. Not only does she not have to woge. She shows no signs of it being hard. Plus there seems to be no limit to what she can do. Diana wrapped up Rachael in the sheet. No other hexenbiest showed that much control.
Like I said, all hog wash. Once faced with facts of what happened on the screen and hard to claim BS opinions as facts. All these wanna-be creative team geniuses know better. They revert back to the writers fault for not making them kill Grimms. Back to, if the writers did this or they did that, it would have been a different outcome
Well if that's the case, then I can claim that the writers forgot to point out that Grimms have this unseen influence over any Wesen, Hexenbiests, man made or naturally born. Grimms have the ability to reduce their attributes and makes them venerable to them. That is why the ration of Wesen, & Hexenbiests to Grimms is ridiculous so uneven. Another fact they seem to overlook. Yet Wesen kids grow up to fear Griimms but Grimms go after them instead of hiding. With such ratios, shouldn't it have been the other way around?
See, I can bull crap, hog wash, like the rest of them. Make shitz up and claim what the writers left out. This is laughable!
I have disagreed with Hexenadler on many issues and I respect him. At least when he makes up outrageous shitz, he posts it on the Fan Creation folder.
BTW, did I forget to mention why did the Royals, BC and HW wanted Grimms to fight on their sides? Conrad did not kill Nick for 2 flocking reasons. He wanted the "GRIMM BOOK" To get to all the existing Grimms, to either recruit them or to kill them is they did not co-operate, and trying too get Nick on his side. Not too shabby for such a shitty class of fighters to be in such a great demand. Just one more FACT some keep overlooking.
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