06-26-2015, 03:03 PM
(06-26-2015, 10:27 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Ok now that I've had time to think I'd like to put this out for your thoughts. I have said couple times in passed posts that Nick and Juliette had a very jealous relationship showing this in season 1. I believe (others may disagree) jealously is a lack of true trust. Because of lack of true trust no way passed their problems now.I totally agree. Compare them to Rosalee and Monroe and see the difference.
(06-26-2015, 10:27 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: That said I'll start at the trailer I don't think Juliette went there for help. I think she went there as she sees this as the start of her and Nick's problems. The Juliette side would not have burn the trailer but (Juliette was not born a hexenbeist) hexenbeist side won.When I have said Juliette went the trailler for help is that when she first transofrmed she went to the trailler to read the books about wesen and search specifically for hexabiest. I remember an episode where Nick got in the trailer and Juliette went out... The book about hexenbiest was on top of the others.
About when she went to fire the trailer, I can see your point of view.
(06-26-2015, 10:27 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: I see in some ways a battle going on inside Juliette and each time this happens the Juliette side loses a little. Now did she burn it to get Nick away for the house your guess is as good as mine I have no clue.
Now on how Nick saw her that's a hard question I have always said the first time she showed Nick was the start of the down hill, had Nick walk her over the couch and talked big difference. When he walked out that set up all that followed.. When she move out he says we should try to work together like she had with him, but it was already to late. Juliette the hexenbeist could not forgive the first mistake. The hexenbeist won again less Juliette.
Juliette had several places she could have change but couldn't fight the hexenbeist side of herself. I think this play somewhat a role why Juliette lost to the hex side. jealous of Nick's power everyone but Hank and Wu were more powerful than her. We have to apply the old saying about power corrupts etc. She liked the idea that no one was more powerful than she.
When she is walking Kenneth around the house an had the flash backs to better time's that was the last gasp of Juliette the hexenbeist was now complete. From then on it was all want a hexenbeist would do there was now more Juliette.
In one of your posts to saw killing Kelly as twofold may well be can't agree or disagree as I see both sides. So I'll use your side an agree but that means she also has to kill Nick because he is of equal danger to her and even more so because he knows her so well.
That's my 2 cents.
Your sample about hexanbiest Juliette fighting normal Juliette is good. I just have a besides point here. For this to work completly, we must consider hexabiest spirit as somekind of possesion and that Juliette loose control over her actions. This has no support inside the show. No one considered this about Juliette, for exemple. Another thing is that the hexanbiests and the zauberbiest in the show was never described as controled by a spiritual force... They have their will intact.
One way we can see this is that Juliette was fighting against the transformation... This way, I can see your post working... Old Juliette fighting against the transformtion to a new Juliette...Each fight she became more hexabiest and less juliette.