05-31-2015, 12:39 PM
(05-31-2015, 11:29 AM)irukandji Wrote:(05-31-2015, 10:31 AM)Hexenadler Wrote: To the contrary, Nick was trying to help Juliette all the time; he just made the error of not accepting her as a Hexenbiest. Nick wanted to help the "human" Juliette, but he couldn't bring himself to embrace Hex-Juliette. (Refusing to kiss her, being unable to sleep in the same bed with her, etc.) If Nick had made it clear to Juliette he'd remain by her side even in the worst-case scenario that her condition was incurable, it's perfectly possible she wouldn't have allowed her new evil impulses to override her common sense.
His hatred of the hexenbiest is an interesting contradiction in Nick, isn't it? That was why I said all he can do is try to fix Juliette back to the way she was. If he tried to help her, I mean really help her, he'd have to face the whole Juliette, Hexenbiest and human.
Sad to say, while it is an interesting contradiction, I was really disappointed with this aspect of Nick. I would have liked to have seen him walk through hell for Juliette.
(05-31-2015, 10:31 AM)Hexenadler Wrote: I guess I'm just sick of the pessimism directed towards Juliette (or more specifically, Juliette and Nick's relationship). I came across a TV Fanatic roundtable discussion online where all the participants were in agreement that they were glad Juliette was apparently dead, which I find a little off-putting. Everyone seems to have forgotten the moment when Juliette said "You know how much I love you, right?", just before she woged for the first time in front of Nick.
Simply put: Nick screwed up, and so did Juliette. As soon as they've both come to terms with this, I honestly think their romance can be resumed. Maybe it'll be a little darker and edgier than it was before (because, let's face it, Kelly's still dead), but if Juliette can learn to apologize, I don't see why there shouldn't be any hope.
And yeah, it would be great if Juliette at least partly found her way back to her old self. Both Hexenbiests and Zauberbiests have been portrayed as consistently treacherous characters by nature, and I'd love one of season 5's themes to be about learning to overcome one's nature for the sake of friends and family.
I'm not for a Juliette apology because to me it means Nick wins. I don't want him to win in this instance. The events that led up to Kelly's death involve him as much as they involve Juliette. He was part of the conspiracy to remove Diana from Adalind. Royals or no royals that was wrong. Kelly was no innocent mother either. She also aided the conspiracy by stealing the baby and hiding it from Adalind. If she really is dead, (I'm still not so sure of that), she had to know that by bringing Diana back to Portland might just very well result in her death.
I think if future events bring Nick and Juliette back together, apologies will not hold a lot of water. Would Nick really believe an apology from a being he considers treacherous? Would Juliette accept an apology from a man who was so completely repulsed by her? Maybe the best course of action for the two of them would be just to forget and start over from scratch.
I don't think you can just "start from scratch". Juliette burned down the trailor, had sex with someone else in the bed they shared and was responsible for not only the death of their neighbors, but Nicks own mother. Too many bridges were burned. Regular people break up for FAR less! LOL!