(02-02-2017, 09:57 AM)irukandji Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 09:10 AM)Nicholas White Wrote: Diana has only been out of Adalind and Renards life for like 1 year. Adalind got Pregnant with Kelly a couple of weeks after Diana was taken. Diana growth spourt makes it seem way longer than what it is.

Diana left Adalind when she was a newborn. She's estimated to be about three years old now. That means she was absent from both Diana and Renard for more than a year.

(02-02-2017, 09:10 AM)Nicholas White Wrote: As far as Sharing. Diana would barely see Renard even if Adalind stayed given Renards job which is slightly demanding. By time he gets off Diana would be going to sleep and by time he went in Diana probably wouldn't even be woke.

On the other side of the coin, Renard is older now than he was when Diana was taken from him and Adalind. It's obvious he's doing things differently now than he would have three years ago. He's making time to spend with his daughter and treating her like his daughter.

(02-02-2017, 09:10 AM)Nicholas White Wrote: This way Diana gets to spend uninterrupted time with Renard. Also Renard doesn't have to walk on eggshells because Adalind won't be there to twist his words. I actually feel like this is a way better arrangement.

Adalind and Renard have a very special daughter, there's no question of that in my mind. Their daughter was taken from them for a period of years and I believe that did something to both of them. Renard is trying to make things better with her.

While Adalind has a relationship with Nick, I don't think her actions in acting so desperate to be with him were in Diana's best interests. Diana deserves better than that. It was to Adalind's credit that she took Diana back to Renard, but in my opinion, Adalind could have stayed a while longer to stabilize things with both Renard and with Diana. Once she had that accomplished, then by all means, go to Nick with open arms.

Quote:Yes, Adalind has loved Nick for months. As recent as two episodes ago, Nick was uncomfortable with Adalind bringing up their first kiss in front of his friends, in front of Juliette. Nick did not tell Adalind their first kiss was at home, he said it was at his loft.

(02-02-2017, 05:12 PM)Nicholas White Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 09:57 AM)irukandji Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 09:10 AM)Nicholas White Wrote: Diana has only been out of Adalind and Renards life for like 1 year. Adalind got Pregnant with Kelly a couple of weeks after Diana was taken. Diana growth spourt makes it seem way longer than what it is.

Diana left Adalind when she was a newborn. She's estimated to be about three years old now. That means she was absent from both Diana and Renard for more than a year.

(02-02-2017, 09:10 AM)Nicholas White Wrote: As far as Sharing. Diana would barely see Renard even if Adalind stayed given Renards job which is slightly demanding. By time he gets off Diana would be going to sleep and by time he went in Diana probably wouldn't even be woke.

On the other side of the coin, Renard is older now than he was when Diana was taken from him and Adalind. It's obvious he's doing things differently now than he would have three years ago. He's making time to spend with his daughter and treating her like his daughter.

(02-02-2017, 09:10 AM)Nicholas White Wrote: This way Diana gets to spend uninterrupted time with Renard. Also Renard doesn't have to walk on eggshells because Adalind won't be there to twist his words. I actually feel like this is a way better arrangement.

Adalind and Renard have a very special daughter, there's no question of that in my mind. Their daughter was taken from them for a period of years and I believe that did something to both of them. Renard is trying to make things better with her.

While Adalind has a relationship with Nick, I don't think her actions in acting so desperate to be with him were in Diana's best interests. Diana deserves better than that. It was to Adalind's credit that she took Diana back to Renard, but in my opinion, Adalind could have stayed a while longer to stabilize things with both Renard and with Diana. Once she had that accomplished, then by all means, go to Nick with open arms.

It has only been about a year and a half. let me put the timeline in perspective:

Diana gets taken from Adalind in episode 3x17 and then Adalind in 3x18/19 uses the hat to take away Nicks powers. This was about a week or 2 apart. 1 month Maximum. Season 4 picks up right where season 3 left off. No time difference. Nick only lost his powers for a max of 4 or 6 months. That is me being generous as Adalind in 4x12 didn't like 6 months pregnant more like 3/4 months. Juilette was dealing with being a hexenbiest for a max of 4 months before she was "killed" that was the end of season 4. Season 5 picks up where season 4 left off. Adalind and Nick stayed at the house for a max of 2 months before they sold it and move to the fome. Adalind stayed their for about 4 months before she moved in with Renard and Diana. Kelly isn't 1 years old yet. Kelly is only about 6-7 months old.

Adalind got pregnant with Kelly a month or three after losing Diana. That is when Adalind would have had sex with Nick.

Pregnancies take between 8-9 months. So far we are at a year now.

Babies begin to crawl around 7-10 months and sit up around 4-7 months. Babies begin to teeth around 4-7 months.

Kelly was teething while at the foam. We haven't seen him sit up by himself and he isn't crawling yet so that would put him around the 6 month range in age.

All together it was about 1 and a half years since she lost Diana. Diana has extreme growth rate but chronologically she would only be 1 and half years old.

(02-02-2017, 05:12 PM)Nicholas White Wrote: Babies begin to crawl around 7-10 months and sit up around 4-7 months. Babies begin to teeth around 4-7 months.

Kelly was teething while at the foam. We haven't seen him sit up by himself and he isn't crawling yet so that would put him around the 6 month range in age.

(02-02-2017, 05:13 PM)syscrash Wrote: He also mentioned the first kiss was when he took her powers. Was that a way of minimizing the kiss in the fome. When Nick went to the mansion I am wondering if Nick was more concerned with making Adalind happy so he could see his son. The same with their conversation once she moved back to the fome. Could he be concerned that she will take off with Kelly again.

(02-02-2017, 05:50 PM)brandon Wrote: If she-Diana- can not have a room, must accept it. Do not let me do patters. Must learn to live in a humble place

(02-02-2017, 05:34 PM)Robyn Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 05:13 PM)syscrash Wrote: He also mentioned the first kiss was when he took her powers. Was that a way of minimizing the kiss in the fome. When Nick went to the mansion I am wondering if Nick was more concerned with making Adalind happy so he could see his son. The same with their conversation once she moved back to the fome. Could he be concerned that she will take off with Kelly again.

I thought about that too, and had the same reaction - Nick was purposely minimizing any assumed intimacy concerning their kiss at the loft. I also think Nick hugging Adalind in the final scene was about showcasing Diana’s negative reaction, not Nick deciding to express feelings for Adalind. There would be Nick/Adalind assumptions from viewers, but G&K aren’t likely to worry about that, they would simply contradict those assumptions in Nick’s later behavior toward Adalind.

(02-02-2017, 06:22 PM)irukandji Wrote: This wouldn't fly in a custody case, at all. Diana isn't just visiting for a night with her father, where such an arrangement might be allowed. Instead she's with a total stranger, a grown man, and she's not a baby but a young girl. Adalind could easily lose custody of her for insisting on such an arrangement. Adalind should have her head examined for even considering it in the first place.

I wonder what exactly is Adalind's mental state at coming to such a decision.

(02-02-2017, 05:57 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Another possible reason for Nick mentioning both is that if he had really been Renard, saying their first kiss was at the fome would be a reasonable guess, and Renard does know that Nick once took Adalind's powers with his blood. But being able to tell Adalind exactly where both events took place is double the proof.

(02-02-2017, 06:22 PM)irukandji Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 05:50 PM)brandon Wrote: If she-Diana- can not have a room, must accept it. Do not let me do patters. Must learn to live in a humble place

This wouldn't fly in a custody case, at all. Diana isn't just visiting for a night with her father, where such an arrangement might be allowed. Instead she's with a total stranger, a grown man, and she's not a baby but a young girl. Adalind could easily lose custody of her for insisting on such an arrangement. Adalind should have her head examined for even considering it in the first place.

I wonder what exactly is Adalind's mental state at coming to such a decision.

(02-02-2017, 06:22 PM)irukandji Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 05:34 PM)Robyn Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 05:13 PM)syscrash Wrote: He also mentioned the first kiss was when he took her powers. Was that a way of minimizing the kiss in the fome. When Nick went to the mansion I am wondering if Nick was more concerned with making Adalind happy so he could see his son. The same with their conversation once she moved back to the fome. Could he be concerned that she will take off with Kelly again.

I thought about that too, and had the same reaction - Nick was purposely minimizing any assumed intimacy concerning their kiss at the loft. I also think Nick hugging Adalind in the final scene was about showcasing Diana’s negative reaction, not Nick deciding to express feelings for Adalind. There would be Nick/Adalind assumptions from viewers, but G&K aren’t likely to worry about that, they would simply contradict those assumptions in Nick’s later behavior toward Adalind.

But if this the case, why aren't Monroe and Rosalee picking up on the uncomfortable vibes?