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OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - Kathryn Wooten - 01-14-2017
I was thinking Renard personality changes on a dime in the same eppy..nothing Nick or the scoobies could get through to a power hungry Renard....I thought Diana was the one who uses her powers to change Renard..maybe not indirectly...what if the stick did it??
Something tells me Nick takes the stick with him to the presser...and we know after the presser....Sean and Nick fight to the death
some how the stick falls out leaving Nick a little disoriented. Sean picks it up or he falls on it after a punch and the stick changes Renard ...the stick knew that Nick and his friends needed to be saved so it knocked out not kill the police officers, it healed and made Juliette homemade hexenbiest more human and gave her NEW powers , but took away her ability to woge, it healed Monroe...seems the stick is following what Nick is actually thinking , while he is fighting Renard, Nick wish it did not come to this he is telling him you don't have to do this, we can work together yada, yada, yada....and of course Renard is not listening. What if the stick fell out of Nick's pocket and somehow Renard came in contact with it,either by falling on it or He actually picks it up...then zap Rernard is a new man and no longer wants to Kill Nick any more
this could go along way for the scoobies to tolerate him. If he does not know what he did to make them hate him and to get closer to Diana...not wanting to kill Nick does not mean the stick arased everything else, also lets hope the stick did not give Renard knew powers. Like talk to the dead (Miesner)
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-14-2017
I'm thinking that if the stick is responsible, it'll be more along the lines of Renard being mortally wounded during the rooftop fight - possibly by the stick, sinced he'll be trying to kill Nick. Nick realizes that a dead Renard will ruin the impersonation presser that cleared him and his friends, so he reluctantly uses the stick to heal Renard. I doubt that that would actually change Renard; more likely it just causes him to realize that he's facing off against Nick the Grimm who has somehow acquired the power of life and death, so he backs off and agrees to go along to get along...for now.
As far as the scoobies tolerating, accepting or trusting Renard, that ship has sailed, struck the iceberg and sunk to the bottom, never to be salvaged.
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - jsgrimm45 - 01-14-2017
(01-14-2017, 01:26 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: I'm thinking that if the stick is responsible, it'll be more along the lines of Renard being mortally wounded during the rooftop fight - possibly by the stick, sinced he'll be trying to kill Nick. Nick realizes that a dead Renard will ruin the impersonation presser that cleared him and his friends, so he reluctantly uses the stick to heal Renard. I doubt that that would actually change Renard; more likely it just causes him to realize that he's facing off against Nick the Grimm who has somehow acquired the power of life and death, so he backs off and agrees to go along to get along...for now.Nick using the relic on Renard not a bad idea we seen it did something to Eve. IMO it would case Renard Meisner problem to increase.
As far as the scoobies tolerating, accepting or trusting Renard, that ship has sailed, struck the iceberg and sunk to the bottom, never to be salvaged.
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - Kathryn Wooten - 01-14-2017
(01-14-2017, 04:14 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:Yes all Renard had seen was visions..after the fight and truce for some reason Renard is now face to face with Meisner(01-14-2017, 01:26 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: I'm thinking that if the stick is responsible, it'll be more along the lines of Renard being mortally wounded during the rooftop fight - possibly by the stick, sinced he'll be trying to kill Nick. Nick realizes that a dead Renard will ruin the impersonation presser that cleared him and his friends, so he reluctantly uses the stick to heal Renard. I doubt that that would actually change Renard; more likely it just causes him to realize that he's facing off against Nick the Grimm who has somehow acquired the power of life and death, so he backs off and agrees to go along to get along...for now.Nick using the relic on Renard not a bad idea we seen it did something to Eve. IMO it would case Renard Meisner problem to increase.
As far as the scoobies tolerating, accepting or trusting Renard, that ship has sailed, struck the iceberg and sunk to the bottom, never to be salvaged.
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-14-2017
(01-14-2017, 04:14 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Nick using the relic on Renard not a bad idea we seen it did something to Eve. IMO it would case Renard Meisner problem to increase.
It would have been hilarious if it had turned out that among other things, the stick "healed" greed, hatred, power lust and all the other human conditions we generally regard as "evil." The original seven Grimms would have launched a bloody centuries-long conflict trying to keep the stick out of the wrong hands when the wrong hands were actually the ones that most needed to have it used on them.
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - Kathryn Wooten - 01-14-2017
(01-14-2017, 05:44 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote:But did the original 7 go to war with the royals centuries ago over this stick and that's why they had to hide it from them all those years ago????who was fighting the knights....I could have sworn in the 2 nd year they said they went to war with the royal families(01-14-2017, 04:14 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Nick using the relic on Renard not a bad idea we seen it did something to Eve. IMO it would case Renard Meisner problem to increase.
It would have been hilarious if it had turned out that among other things, the stick "healed" greed, hatred, power lust and all the other human conditions we generally regard as "evil." The original seven Grimms would have launched a bloody centuries-long conflict trying to keep the stick out of the wrong hands when the wrong hands were actually the ones that most needed to have it used on them.
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-14-2017
The seven Grimms went to war for the royals during the Crusades. They found the stick in Constantinople while they were sacking the city and decided to hide it from the royals, who found out about it and proceeded to spend the centuries after that going after the Grimms and their descendents trying to get the keys to get it back.
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - Kathryn Wooten - 01-14-2017
(01-14-2017, 06:25 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: They went to war for the royals during the Crusades. They found the stick in Constantinople while they were sacking the city and decided to hide it from the royals, who found out about it and proceeded to spend the centuries after that trying to get the keys to get it back.
So they know about the stick???so Renard may know to???
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - jsgrimm45 - 01-14-2017
(01-14-2017, 06:27 PM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote:Renard knew about the keys but not with they protected, he did give a few ideas on what it might be.(01-14-2017, 06:25 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: They went to war for the royals during the Crusades. They found the stick in Constantinople while they were sacking the city and decided to hide it from the royals, who found out about it and proceeded to spend the centuries after that trying to get the keys to get it back.
So they know about the stick???so Renard may know to???
RE: OKAY FORGET ABOUT THE POLL THE STICK DID IT - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-14-2017
Nobody alive knew what they were fighting over before Nick and Monroe found it. And right now nobody but the scoobies know what it is.