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RE: Eve Adalind - irukandji - 01-08-2017
(01-08-2017, 09:50 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Juliette and Nick both moved into the house at the same time. When Juliette remembered moving day, they had nothing in the fridge except beer.
Your previous argument states that when Juliette talked about her house, her relationship with Nick had been erased from her memory. Actually, it wasn't only her relationship with Nick, but her entire memory of Nick. Now you're saying she remembers a conversation about nothing in the fridge except beer and that equates to them moving in the house at the same time?
How can that be if she has no memory of Nick to begin with and she, according to your argument, would naturally think of the house as hers?
RE: Eve Adalind - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-08-2017
(01-08-2017, 10:01 AM)irukandji Wrote: Your previous argument states that when Juliette talked about her house, her relationship with Nick had been erased from her memory. Actually, it wasn't only her relationship with Nick, but her entire memory of Nick. Now you're saying she remembers a conversation about nothing in the fridge except beer and that equates to them moving in the house at the same time?
How can that be if she has no memory of Nick to begin with and she, according to your argument, would naturally think of the house as hers?
Yes, it happens several episodes after the "my kitchen" conversation, when Juliette follows advice she is given to step into her returning memories to regain her past. She eventually remembers opening the front door so Nick can carry in the last of their boxes and getting him the beer to console him when he gives up his Elvis lamp because she hates it.
BTW, I looked it up, and here in OR it is actually possible to sell a house without a clear title if one of multiple legal owners is declared missing. Buyers would expect a huge discount on the price, the cost of title insurance would be astronomical, and the missing owner's share of proceeds would go into an escrow account until the person reappears or is eventually declared deceased.
RE: Eve Adalind - irukandji - 01-08-2017
(01-08-2017, 10:07 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: It is actually possible to sell a house without a clear title, or if one of multiple legal owners is declared missing. Buyers would expect a huge discount on the price, the cost of title insurance would be astronomical, and the missing owner's share of proceeds would go into an escrow account until the person reappears or is eventually declared deceased.
(01-08-2017, 10:01 AM)irukandji Wrote: Your previous argument states that when Juliette talked about her house, her relationship with Nick had been erased from her memory. Actually, it wasn't only her relationship with Nick, but her entire memory of Nick. Now you're saying she remembers a conversation about nothing in the fridge except beer and that equates to them moving in the house at the same time?
How can that be if she has no memory of Nick to begin with and she, according to your argument, would naturally think of the house as hers?
Yes, it happens several episodes after the "my kitchen" conversation, when Juliette follows advice she is given to step into her returning memories to regain her past. She eventually remembers opening the front door so Nick can carry in the last of their boxes and getting him the beer to console him when he gives up his Elvis lamp because she hates it.
This all happens within the same episode, that's why I posed the question of how Juliette can't remember Nick so she calls the house hers, but yet later in the very same episode she moves in with him.
RE: Eve Adalind - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-08-2017
Yeah, you're right, it is the same episode. She has the accident at the beginning and the returning memories at the end.
And she doesn't move in with him. She remembers that she already did move in with him.
RE: Eve Adalind - irukandji - 01-08-2017
(01-08-2017, 10:51 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: She doesn't move in with him. She remembers that she already did move in with him.
It doesn't matter. It was her house. That was my point.
RE: Eve Adalind - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-08-2017
No, she remembers that they moved in together. Watch it. The house is in total disarray when Nick is carrying the last boxes in, and then he says they need to put something into the fridge besides beer. Juliette's vision returns to the present when she sees that the fridge is actually full.
And the last box she remembers Nick carrying in; he think's it's encyclopedias. Does Nick really seem to you like someone who would own a set of encyclopedias?
In 503, Nick is talking to Adalind about the house and says "when I bought it." And it's not as if he has any reason to lie to Adalind about that. So whatever the writers said previously, by season 5 they'd retconned the house into Nick's property.
RE: Eve Adalind - irukandji - 01-08-2017
(01-08-2017, 11:06 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: No, she remembers that they moved in together. Watch it. The house is in total disarray when Nick is carrying the last boxes in, and then he says they need to put something into the fridge besides beer. Juliette's vision returns to the present when she sees that the fridge is actually full.
How does moving in together prove that it's not her house?
RE: Eve Adalind - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-08-2017
It doesn't. But it doesn't prove that it is, either. If there's any "proof" to be had, it's in the fact that Nick says it's his even to people he has no reason to lie to, and that he's able to sell it. But it seems to me that you are determined to make everything Nick says or does an act of corruption, so I don't expect to to accept that, either.
RE: Eve Adalind - irukandji - 01-08-2017
(01-08-2017, 11:15 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: It doesn't. But it doesn't prove that it is, either.
Well here are a couple of things that do. First, Nick moved out. He wouldn't have done that if it was his house.
Second, you're implying that Juliette's illness must have worn off on Nick because when he agrees to meet her for dinner and he's late, he tells Monroe, "I'm supposed to be at Juliette's"
Later, Monroe when Monroe asks Hank if something was going on with Nick at work and Hank asks why, Monroe states "You know he was supposed to have dinner at Juliette's."
Hank asks, "didn't he?" and Monroe states, "no".
Monroe knows the house is Juliette's. He confirmed it. He also took Nick in. If it was Nick's house, he'd never have moved in with Monroe in the first place.
RE: Eve Adalind - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-08-2017
Right. Nick is going to assert whatever legal rights he may have and try to kick Juliette out of the house even though everything they're going through is the result of her suffering from amnesia that was inflicted on her by someone seeking revenge on him.
You really do have a very low opinion of Nick.