(08-25-2016, 09:24 AM)irukandji Wrote: Your comment made me think of something, Hexenadler. It's not only marriage that the characters don't commit to, it seems the series is full of noncommittments. HW and BC are two that come immediately to mind. Just because Conrad and Meisner die, that shouldn't be an end to these organizations. Yet it sounds like as of season 6, they will no longer exist.Will they only drop the Portland part of HW and BC? After all both sides have been just about killed off. Will the episode Nick isn't in will be because he is somewhere doing HW work?
08-25-2016, 01:15 PM
(08-25-2016, 01:10 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(08-25-2016, 09:24 AM)irukandji Wrote: Your comment made me think of something, Hexenadler. It's not only marriage that the characters don't commit to, it seems the series is full of noncommittments. HW and BC are two that come immediately to mind. Just because Conrad and Meisner die, that shouldn't be an end to these organizations. Yet it sounds like as of season 6, they will no longer exist.Well they only drop the Portland part of HW and BC? After all both sides have been just about killed off. Will the episode Nick isn't in will be because he is somewhere doing HW work? @JS, hey there. I'm of the opinion that Nick is not going to join up, even short term, with HW. I see him perhaps trying to find other "freelance" Grimms like himself to take on Renard. He could also be going after Elizabeth to get a hold on Renard and get back Little Kelly in a one for one swap. Bit dark for Nick's character, but if you're desperate, you often do desperate things.
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08-25-2016, 01:27 PM
(08-25-2016, 01:15 PM)wfmyers1207 Wrote:Getting Elizabeth would be a good idea, and you're right he does have the book of Grimms. So maybe that is what he doing when off on his own..(08-25-2016, 01:10 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(08-25-2016, 09:24 AM)irukandji Wrote: Your comment made me think of something, Hexenadler. It's not only marriage that the characters don't commit to, it seems the series is full of noncommittments. HW and BC are two that come immediately to mind. Just because Conrad and Meisner die, that shouldn't be an end to these organizations. Yet it sounds like as of season 6, they will no longer exist.Will they only drop the Portland part of HW and BC? After all both sides have been just about killed off. Will the episode Nick isn't in will be because he is somewhere doing HW work?
08-25-2016, 01:42 PM
(08-25-2016, 11:32 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: I'm still miffed about the botched 5A Black Claw plot of wesen coming out to the world. I hated the mayor plot with a passion, a complete utter waste of screen time. The only good thing to come out of it in the renewed beef between Nick and Renard at the very end.Hi RPM, You mention "the renewed beef between Nick and Renard at the very end." IMO, Renard has caused or participated in every tragedy that Nick has endured. I made a thread about the Renard vs Nick plot: http://grimmforum.com/forum/Thread-Renar...nge?page=7 So how do you expect the writers will handle beef between Nick and Renard at the very end? Will the big confrontation be just another truce or will they deliver a high noon face-off? How about a fist fight on 43rd floor of the U.S. Bancorp Tower that ends with Nick throwing Renard through a glass window? Would Mommy Elizabeth fly in on her broom and rescue him? New Guy
08-25-2016, 02:08 PM
(08-25-2016, 11:32 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: I'm still miffed about the botched 5A Black Claw plot of wesen coming out to the world. I hated the mayor plot with a passion, a complete utter waste of screen time. The only good thing to come out of it in the renewed beef between Nick and Renard at the very end. I completely agree. I thought the storyline of a wesen uprising was a very good one in my opinion. Not only that, it would have put all of the characters to really great use. For instance, Eve. It was a very wasteful use of her character to be skulking around spying on Renard, then report her findings to *Nick*, as if was an important part of HW, which he was not.
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08-25-2016, 02:29 PM
(08-25-2016, 02:08 PM)irukandji Wrote:Hi Iruk,(08-25-2016, 11:32 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: I'm still miffed about the botched 5A Black Claw plot of wesen coming out to the world. I hated the mayor plot with a passion, a complete utter waste of screen time. The only good thing to come out of it in the renewed beef between Nick and Renard at the very end. You are correct. Nick was not a part of HW. He was recruited, but never joined. However at the end of season 5, the two surviving HW members, Trubel and FrankenEve are hiding in the tunnel below Nick's fome. Nick alone defends them, killing all the attacking BC. Then Renard and Bonaparte arrive and . . . you know how that ends. IMO, were it not for Nick and the stick, FrankenEve would have (really) died. Trubel may have also been killed. So I respectfully disagree (you knew I would). IMO Nick was vital to HW when he was most needed. New Guy (08-25-2016, 02:29 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hi Iruk, Hi New Guy- The creative team is completely at fault here. They're the ones who pumped up the audience with the teaser that humanity was on the verge of extinction. What started off as a very promising revolution premise which had absolutely nothing to do with Nick turned into Nick versus the NPP, Nick versus Conrad, and Nick versus Renard. Nick was never vital to HW. If he was, they would have nabbed him at the same time they nabbed Trubel and Juliette. I still think he was miffed because they failed to take an interest in him, which could have made an interesting episode or two. Certainly much more interesting than Adalind at the fome.
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08-26-2016, 06:15 AM
Nick was never interested in HW. He didn't trust them and He was wary of them because he didn't know who funded them and called the shots and the writers never told us. He didn't want to be beholden to them, whoever they were. They made it into some shadowy government division but it wasn’t well thought out and now HW along with BC will possibly have disappeared come the next season and that doesn't make any sense based on the scope of the whole wesen uprising they sold us the beginning of the season. Nick was happy being a cop and working under someone but when it comes to being a Grimm, he's independent. For me, I hated Trubel working at HW, she almost always asked permission to do what she wanted that had nothing to do with HW. Within the premise of the show/narrative, I feel Grimms shouldn't really answer to anyone, they can have allies and work with other entities but they must maintain their freedom to act as they will. They used to work for the royals and that relationship soured.
08-26-2016, 07:45 AM
We all look at it differently. In my opinion, I saw Nick as miffed because HW did not appear to be interested in him.
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08-26-2016, 07:51 AM
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