05-03-2017, 10:43 AM
(05-03-2017, 09:24 AM)Hexenadler Wrote:(05-03-2017, 07:39 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: It may be convoluted but that's just the way it is. The show doesn't need to spell out everything in exacting detail. And they don't abandon the issue. It threads through all of these Hexenbeist matters. It starts with the removal of Adalind's power. Then it relates to her repossession. This has a bearing on Diana's nature and the manner by which Juliette would become a Hexenbeist. It connects to the suppressant Adalind took. And finally, to the way in which Eve could lose the Beist when passing back through the portal, and regain it at the end. The nature of a Hexenbeist is different than typical Wesen. And it comes with gradations and a certain malleability. They're related to as Wesen because they exhibit similar traits. But the simple fact that they possess magic, disconnects them from the norm. It's says in the Grimm Journals, that despite obvious deformation to the eyes in a Hexenbeist's woged form, they exhibit no impairment. This would imply that this face is merely a veil. A manifestation of the spirit within. It rises to the surface under certain circumstances, and in this way they are like any other Wesen. But it's not an actual underlying biology for Hexenbeists. It's symbiosis.
Mrtrick, I really think you're just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Most of the time, a show DOES need to spell everything out in detail. The same applies to any kind of entertainment, be it TV series or movie, unless you're making some kind of plotless arthouse film. "Grimm" might be a fantasy show, but it's a fantasy show that still needs to be abide by its own rules. Once it starts breaking them, it goes off the rails, which is exactly what happened with "Grimm."
Not once could any of the writers be bothered to have a single character say outright "Hexenbiests aren't like other Wesen," and that's because THEY. DIDN'T. CARE. It's as simple as that. It's nothing to do with symbiosis, or malleability, or whatever excuse you're making up to cover a plot hole they didn't give a damn about while they were writing at their PCs. You're defending sloppy storytelling and unapologetic hackwork, not some subtle plot point. If the rest of the entertainment industry was happy to abide by your standards, we'd have gorgeous-looking brain-dead trash like "Prometheus" to endure every year. I'm sure the majority of stories being told on television and in theaters these days are in such dire shape exactly because of the "that's just the way it is" mentality.
They don't have to literally say Hexenbeists are different. They clearly are. Without a deep dive into the shrouded past, we're not going to know the Hexenbeist's ultimate origin. But based on the information provided, I can make an educated assumption as to their nature. We also don't get a textbooks worth of information on the genesis of the Grimm, but we understand them. There are things beyond the now and what little history has been written down, the characters can't perceive without aid. Perhaps the writers could have found storylines that expound upon all of this, but as they didn't, I must interpret what we've been given, rather than call everything pointless and choose a generic explanation based on frustration. If you see everything through the lens of failed writing and creative indifference, then all things on the show become null. Which means all explanation becomes moot, including your own. If you believe that the writers had no specific beliefs about the world they created, then the beliefs of anyone else cease to matter by default.