11-10-2014, 07:56 AM
@Hyndara I always appreciate a dissenting point and especially appreciate your comments from #2 and on down. However, the entire purpose of a forum is to discuss a number of perspectives, even if they are diverse. I have to admit I laugh whenever someone suggests "if you don't like the show just stop watching." Why bother to write that in a show forum? Of course, we can all stop watching if we don't like something about it....but then there would never be a need for forums, would there?
I also think--from my experience of being around writers of different types--writers often lock themselves up in a little bubble and EVERYTHING they write makes perfect sense to THEM. However, it doesn't mean those intentions translate well on paper or in a production environment. While I don't think writers should read blogs, forums, and other feedback just to change their ideas per mob's rule, I do think an open-minded writer would follow a few well-written forums or blogs and find out WHERE and WHY they may have lost part of their fan base. For instance: If someone posts they are frustrated that Captain Renard isn't getting as much screen time because he's "hot"....well, that's just ridiculous and not useful. However, If someone posts they want Captain Renard's screen time and storyline to be expanded because the potential storyline for a Royal/Grimm partnership that could change the Wesen world was intriguing when it was introduced....well, that's good and valuable feedback. As far as Season 2 goes, yes Silas, it's gone, but it's NOT forgotten. It also set the stage and expectation for what is to come. That's like saying your high school years are over so forget them. So what if they are gone? The lessons and experiences garnered during that time help us form attachments and prepare us for adulthood. There are lessons to be learned from the first 2 1/2 seasons. The Grimm writers don't have to recreate them or extend the storylines ad nauseum, but they should ask a few questions and learn why their fan base is not as enchanted with a fairy tale now as they were "Once upon a time...."
"Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today." ~Mark Twain
11-10-2014, 02:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2014, 02:19 PM by Grimmster123.)
Quote:I hear you loud and clear! While I think Toboni does a pretty good job and is very talented, I cannot stand Trubel and she's the main reason why I'm not watching anymore. @Hyndara I complete respect this statement and I wish that all people that dislike the character of Trubel felt this way. I understand that you may not like the character but that doesn't mean you have to rag on the actress that plays that particular character. Hyndara put it perfectly by saying that Jacqueline Toboni is very talented but he finds the character she plays to be annoying. This isn't Toboni's fault it's the writers fault. All she's doing is playing the part that they want her to play.
11-11-2014, 11:54 AM
(11-10-2014, 02:18 PM)Grimmster123 Wrote:Quote:I hear you loud and clear! While I think Toboni does a pretty good job and is very talented, I cannot stand Trubel and she's the main reason why I'm not watching anymore. Hi Guys...I usually agree with the premise "don't blame the actor for bad writing," but I don't think Toboni is talented, and I think a lot of people agree with me. I think she overacts and is stilted, almost as though she belongs more in theatre than in TV or cinema. She's the same in all her scenes; she's an attractive version of David Caruso in CSI: Miami with the sideways, smoldering looks that are laughable. Toboni is just missing the sunglasses and sideways glance, although the "deep penetrating gazes through her overlong bangs as she leans slightly forward in preparation to give her line (her turn! her turn!)" really does wonders (sarcasm) for the show. If she acted as well as she carries herself in interviews, I'd like her. And I think the character would be more generally likeable. I actually don't think it's the writing as much as it is the actor in this instance.
"Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today." ~Mark Twain
11-11-2014, 12:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2014, 12:27 PM by Grimmster123.)
Quote:If she acted as well as she carries herself in interviews, I'd like her. And I think the character would be more generally likeable. I respect where you're coming from and I think you're right, most people agree with you that she's a bad actress as demonstrated by the decrease in viewers since she became the only Grimm on the show. However I think that your above quote demonstrates my point that it's indeed the writer's fault. In her interviews she's lively, she's cheerful, and she's full of emotion just like the recent college graduate that she is. On the show however she's a rugged, rebellious fighter who grew up in the foster care system with little to no support from anybody. The reason that she seems so stoic and boring on screen is because she has never had anybody to care for her before so she's still getting used to Nick and the world that she just learned about. That's the character they want her to play. Although I enjoy seeing Trubel operate as the only Grimm, my hope is that Nick regains his powers relatively soon and that he and Trubel begin to work together. I think this would allow for Ms. Toboni to demonstrate the acting skills that you said you'd like to see from her and maybe it would change her opinion in the public's eye. |
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