03-17-2017, 11:41 PM
As I watched the ending of this episode. I was expecting Eve to go into a complete woge and push back against skull guys stick.
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03-17-2017, 11:41 PM
As I watched the ending of this episode. I was expecting Eve to go into a complete woge and push back against skull guys stick.
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03-18-2017, 12:29 AM
She is going full woge during the fadeout. The push back probably starts the next episode off.
This episode shows just how out of order they shot the scenes. Looking at the amount of snow Eve going through the mirror was one of the last scenes. Nick going through was a few days before. Their first encounter with the wesen was at the beginning. What is funny is the walk to the encampment there is some snow then no snow then snow again. They did not even do that part in order. It looks like they did the Nick and Eve scenes. Then they did the scenes with the other wesen. Because of the fog and lack of any snow. They must have filmed that part first. Or the encampment was filmed inside. They could simulate the fog. The last part of this episode was filmed first. Not a single bit of snow on the ground or on the stones. Also noticed Bitsie is the only one that filmed in the heavy snow which means the opening scene was filmed last. Wonder if there was suppose to be more outside shot but the weather caused them to change plans.
After watching how this episode was filmed, Eve wrapping up before the end. Does not mean she is not in the last scene. The same with Hank and Wu. Do they tell monroe that they ate Blutbad while there when they get back. I noticed Eve didn't eat any. I wonder if there will be a scene where Diana gets to see them all woge even Sean. I don't know why it just seems Adalind would have had the talk with her about what she is and wesen. has anyone else noticed. At no time has Diana at any age has ever been in public. When Adalind woged would have been nice if Diana eyes glowed back. Even better once Diana saw her mother do it. Diana woges. Hanna is the only female on the show that has not done a woge. I am sure Hanna would love to have at least on shot of her woged to go with the other characters.
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(03-18-2017, 01:16 AM)syscrash Wrote: This episode shows just how out of order they shot the scenes. Looking at the amount of snow Eve going through the mirror was one of the last scenes. Nick going through was a few days before. Their first encounter with the wesen was at the beginning. What is funny is the walk to the encampment there is some snow then no snow then snow again. Bitsie has explained why there was a differently weather. And that why there was no re-shoot of the scenes. (03-18-2017, 01:16 AM)syscrash Wrote: Do they tell monroe that they ate Blutbad while there when they get back. I noticed Eve didn't eat any. I needed to look away when I saw Nick's eating the Blutbad. The question is will he explain it to Monroe or will he don't say anything - what maybe be better.
I call BS on the closure scene, at least some of the things said. I get Nick's guilt but it's weird to say Juliette didn't owe him anything even after his own mother is dead. It would have been better if he said nothing at all. I know Nick's moved on from pretty much everything that's been done to him but there was no need for him to say such nonsense. Even an "I've long forgiven you" would have sufficed and done a better job at "closure" than what he actually said.
I'm glad Eve feels she's found her purpose and has looked at her life with a different perspective and figured it couldn't have happened any other but I'm not impressed with her continual blame for "Juliette" like Juliette is a complete separate person in mind and body altogether. I wasn't impressed at all.
03-18-2017, 02:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-18-2017, 02:19 AM by FaceInTheCrowd.)
I think learning about Adalind's fears of the effect her returning powers might have on her personality brought Nick to a place where he concluded that all of Juliette's misdeeds as a hexenbiest were the result of mind altering spells. None of which would have happened if he hadn't been a Grimm. And yes, just forgiving would have been better than taking on blame. Eve certainly didn't seem to have much use for that line of thought, and there's nobody there but the two of them.
Eve's disassociated personality fragment is still running the show in her head. But the way she talked about their past as if it was hers as well and not something that happened only to Juliette seems to indicate that integration of the two personality fragments is taking place. Eve is not Juliette anymore, but she's not the Eve she was last season, either.
03-18-2017, 02:21 AM
You missed her most important statement. The one about those things being in the past and you can not do anything about them. She also said as Juliette she did a lot of bad things. Things she will never forgive her for. But she is not that person any more. The entire concept is very common and understandable to someone gone through recovery or having a criminal past.
I am one of those people. In my twenty and thirties my past contained a lot of things I no longer talk about. Some I went to jail for some I did not. four hours of surgery after a knife fight changed me. Near death can do that to you. Once I recovered I no longer used my street name created a new nick name syscrash the anti crash. The reason I am a programmer with a reputation for writing code that will not crash. I am now retired after having done quite well. Since the change I have never looked back. Calling the Eve concept BS is something someone who has never been thought it would think. Sure it may be an opinion. But I can attest to the mind set being real. Especially letting the past be the past. And not being obsessed with trying to make amends or living with regret. I found telling the store owner you robbed at gun point you are sorry does not one any good. Tell your dad you are sorry for selling his car does not change a thing. Turning your life around does more then you can ever say. To be there when he needs you is the only way to say your sorry and mean it. It is about your actions not your words. You can go back on your words. You can never retract your actions.
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03-18-2017, 02:54 AM
I didn't miss it. It's part of the integration. Going from seeing Juliette as a totally different person to acknowledging her as a past version of herself.
The Juliette/Eve thing is more complex than the process you describe (and compliments to you for it) because it originated not from personal reflection and desire to change, but from HW's "breaking" process, which induced a disassociative state in the mind.
Been thinking on something (no joke really) the contract Adalind did to get her powers back, was that for the Zerstorer? Diana knows a lot about that world not to have been there. Now the next question are these the events to change the world, Monroe's dad was talking about? Now the next question did the hat change Juliette for this reason? Next question does Kelly play a role in this fight, does him being there give Diana a different power? This episode give us a lot of question now on Diana and Eve powers.
03-18-2017, 04:36 AM
There was no I mean no chemistry between Juliette and Nick..they were oh so painfully boring ..Sean had all the chemistry with the women on Grimm..Juliette and Nick did nothing for me to watch the show except Juliette was irritating
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