11-03-2017, 04:43 AM
(11-03-2017, 04:08 AM)New Guy Wrote:(11-02-2017, 03:18 PM)Hell Rell Wrote: Nick being enchanted with the Musai is similar to what happened to Juliette. I don't think he or anyone who fell under her spell should be held accountable either. They had little to no control over their own actions. Their autonomy was taken away from them.Hello HR,
I know this wouldn't console any of the family and friends of victims but I think you're being a little harsh here.
For example, I don't give anyone a pass for anything they do while drunk because they decided to get drunk in the first place. However, what if that person is someone who never drinks but had their drink spiked with potent alcohol? Is it fair to hold that person responsible for everything they did while drunk? They didn't even plan on drinking, let alone get drunk, but some asshole decided to spike their drink. Doe this person deserve your ire?
Yes people are responsible for their actions. A society that does not hold people accountable has anarchy. Anything goes without consequence.
Your spiked drink example is incomplete. If the person drinks it, becomes intoxicated, calls a cab and goes home is one way to leave them innocent. If instead they commit an act of violence then plead innocence because they were intoxicated they deserve prosecution for the crime. Would you give them a pass if the intoxicated person attacked, raped or murdered your child?
It isn't the alcohol, drugs, spell, potion or "evil spirit" that is responsible, it is the perpetrator of the crime. Nick knows that and wanted to confess to killing the guy in the bar while under the influence of zombie madness.
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As I see it HR, your example does place blame with the person that spiked the drink but it does not excuse the drunk. Over the years, when I go out or to a party I do not drink excessIlly. If I drink a beer, it’s from a bottle I opened or a bartender. If I am drinking from a glass I don’t leave it unattended. I do this because, I believe, If I put myself in a compromising situation I feel I will be ultimately responsible for it. It’s also what I taught my kids.
My take of the results of Juliette coma after-effects do excuse her for her feelings for Sean which was similar to his effects from the Muse. She also had no control of her memory loss of Nick. But her behavior with the freedom of not being in the relationship she had forgotten was no excuse to treat the man that was still in her life like she did.
But at this point in the game I still would have forgiven her. Once we jump to the after-effects of her assisting on Nick getting his Grimm back, all bets are off the bitch. Where was her understanding and patience of waiting for Nick to come around?
Now, some will toss this up to the poor writings of the development team doing a lousy job, and I strongly agree that they did. IMO, we have to diagnose these characters as they were written not as we wished they were.
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