If a 20 something still views life as they did at age 6 more or less, they are emotionally stunted. A child sees life as black or white, mommy daddy and me(maybe brothers and sisters, but they are optional). The fact that Diana did not kill off Nick the first time she saw them hug was a miracle. If she sees mommy as happy with Nick, and he is a good guy to them both, and little half brother is not a pain or threat, I would be surprised if she didn't call Nick dad. Based on my experience as an evil stepdad who became an okay guy.
(03-31-2017, 11:29 PM)syscrash Wrote: My take on what I saw in the death scenes. Nick had a more emotional reaction to Eve dying then he had with Adalind. He actually held Eve and tried to revive her.
True in the reset he kissed Adalind and hugged Eve. But you still get the feeling that there is a deeper connection between Nick and Eve. Just like you get this feeling there is this connection between Adalind and Sean. If not for the underlying problems in their past. The relationships would be Nick and Eve. Sean and Adalind.
I thought that Nick was in too much shock to have a proper reaction upon seeing the death of Adalind. I think the writers intended the death of Adalind to be much more significant to Nick because they showed time kinda slowing down for Nick when he was kneeling on the ground, his face just froze when he saw her get struck with the axe. Then he went to her and he couldn't talk, react, like he couldn't accept or believe it. He was completely overwhelmed. I think thats kinda what broke Nick and his will to fight. Of course his best friend dying a few minutes after that only helped to break him down further. Nick may have been more emotional when he saw Eve dying but he had more time to process her death and he still had the will to fight, this didn't happen with Adalind. He just shut down, and couldn't function and just basically gave up.
In response to the original post for this thread;
Let’s start with the final scene in the new trailer 20 years later. Kelly is all grown up and updating a book about his father’s exploits. Diana walks in and says something like “Let’s go we have Wesen to kill”. How much more proof do you want, that says, Nick the Grimm was her influence of growing up, not Sean. What they form looks more of an extended Scobie gang than an HW organization.
There was no Sean/Adalind at the end because there NEVER was a Sean/Adalind, EVER! Diana was a result of Adalind filling in for his craving for Juliette, not a result of affection for each other. When he becomes mayor, she was forced to move in with Sean by Bonaparte. The one-time Diana did try to force them together, Adalind shut it down.
If Nick reacts stronger when Juliette dies is because He thinks the “Stick” can still save lives. By the time the death of Adalind comes around, he knows, the “Stick” isn’t reviving anyone and is starting to accept Defeat!
In the stone hedge scene after Nick tells Juliette not to split up, Juliette dumps on Nick that she was never ever going back to the way things were. Something about “Being happy just gets in the way for a higher calling on her part. If Nick still had any lingering feeling for Juliette, he will maintain his passive reaction to her wishes, as He maintained throughout all six seasons.
He was never dominant, he always let Juliette determine the outcome of their relationship. No matter what happened to them, she was always steering that ship! In the end, he becomes more of a “wet noodle” than more of a man!
You know you are OLD, when you see the Slide Ruler you used in college selling in an ANTIQUE SHOP!!
Something that's never been brought up before, Diana opening the weapon's cabinet is reminiscent to Nick doing that all through S1. Hunting bad wesen is now a part of her legacy as much as it is Kelly's because she was raised by Nick alongside Adalind. She's named after the goddess of the hunt and Grimms were known for being hunters of wesen in the wesen community, it's too much of a coincidence, lol.
Regardless of personal opinions of the characters or preference to one character over another, Nick is the Grimm and central character of the show. Diana remembered that Zerstörer killed her parents, but she was gleefully hugging Nick during the last current-time scene, not rejoicing with her parents who are now alive. The show isn’t going to end on any note other than one that keeps Nick front and center, and loved and admired by all.
I never fully bought into that idea, but it would be beyond strange for a show that glorified Nick for six seasons to stick him in the backseat. So of course Diana and Kelly grew up with and were trained by Nick, and are happily carrying on the Grimm tradition. It makes much more sense that Diana refers to Renard and Nick as dad than for Kelly to consider anyone other than Nick as dad. For all we know, G &K might have been giving a subtle hint that Renard wasn’t alive during the entire twenty years preceding the final scene.
"If my devils are to leave me, I am afraid my angels will take flight as well." Rainer Maria Rilke
08-27-2017, 12:54 PM (This post was last modified: 08-27-2017, 12:55 PM by rpmaluki.)
Sean held Diana throughout most of that "reunion" scene in Monroe's house until she saw that Eve's hexenbiest was back and confirmed that Zerstörer was dead before letting her father hold her again,Sean even picked her up into his arms until the scene cut to the flashed forward scene. I don't see how one hug from Nick superceded everything else in that scene.
Yes Nick is the central figure and Diana's mother loved him so she grew up under grimm tutelage which explained her going on a wesen hunt with him, her mother, brother and the triplets. I don't see the writers beating us over the head with Nick's supposed awesomeness, if that was the case, I don't think he'd be hated as much as he is in this forum. I can't speak to Sean's fate, whether dead or alive because we just don't know. The writers claimed everyone was still alive and one big happy family when the show ended, so I guess he's still alive. Diana made room in her heart for her step dad, that's what I take from that end scene and the twenty year jump. As long as Adalind remained with Nick, his presence was bound to leave a mark on her. I don't know if it was purposeful or not of the writers to have her open the weapon's cabinet as we first see Nick do back in S1, but clearly grimming is a part of her life as much as it was for the scoobies but it was more closer to home for her than Nick's friends. As for her name, that's just coincidence because I doubt the writers actually planned to pair up Nick and Adalind on a permanent basis back in S3 beyond their afternoon romp just before Monroe and Rosalee's wedding.